Originally Posted by tomguy
Is there any official calculation for determining eqivalent dosing of AndroGel
vs. Injectible Testosterone
? I had been taking 125 mg. testosterone cypionate
IM injection/once a week with good results, but recently (within the last month) tried switching to AndroGel with my new doctor. I have asked my doctor what the prescribed 5 gram/day AndroGel is delivering compared to what I was getting before from the shots, but get vague answers. As best I can tell from reading the AndroGel product insert, the 5 gram AndroGel is giving me 35 mg. per week vs. the 125 mg I used to get from shots? Is this still comparable given the different delivery methods?
While I haven't lost any strength, I don't feel as energetic. My total testosterone is 636. While on Cypionate I was on the high end of the scale (if not over it) most of the time and felt pretty good.
Thanks for any comments.
As 5g of TestoGel = 50mg of Testosterone ( here in Australia the brand is TestoGel,and only available in 5g pack), I rather take Andriol Testocaps 40mg = 25mg Testosterone.
I used to get Reandron/Nebido ( Testosterone Undecanoate)1000mg, the effect was better than Sustanon
250mg/3 weeks injections. With Reandron 1000mg, my libido
increased instantly within 2 days of injection. But the problem is I only get 4 injections/ year.
With Andriol 40mg = 25mg Testosterone, I'm taking 6 caps/day = 150mg testosterone/day, while TestoGel 10g/day delivers 100mg Testosterone.
Both Andriol and TestoGel/AndroGel 's absorption is erratic, while Reandron/Nebido injection is not.
As I'm getting 180 caps of Andriol/ month with only $5.50 ( as I'm on DSP), I tried to inject 10caps twice/week ( The active ingredient is the same as in Nebido/Reandron-> Testosterone Undecanoate, with Castor oil and Propylene-glycol-monolaurate), making a total of 20 caps = 800mg of Testosterone Undecanoate/ week-> = 9600mg Testosterone Undecanoate/ 3 months as opposed to only 1000mg of Testosterone Undecanoate/ 3 months of Nebido/Reandron.)
The method is simple, i just pierced through the caps drawing out the oil into the syringe using 23 gauge needle. In this way, I'm gettingmore Testosterone than using the Gels or oral Capsules.
The big problem is severe diarrhea all weeks long....... I don't know whether it is caused by the Castor oil or Propylene-glycol-monolaurate.....
The second problem is, I don't get the libido enhancing effect, like the Nebido injection/Andriol oral/ Gels.... NO EFFECT AT ALL !!!
Maybe, it could be because the alteration of the Testosterone molecules, that is different when it is supposed to be used as an injection, oral, or gels.
Anyone can clarify on this ??