Chantix - What we know on this around here.?

[BBC3]

Been trying to start it lately to kick the chew. Really strong mojo me thinks. First dose and I was projectile vomiting. Few days late back on the horse. Lasted 2-3 starter days and had some wild off to the races with the heart brief (Tachycardia I think), and early one morning in the "heart attach hour". So I got paranoid and took a beta blocker that I am prescribed for BP occasional. Did not have any more issues, but did not take another that day. I See that Chantix is both an Alpha & beta actor. Is it any wonder peoples hearts are doing tricks on it, and really unaddressed by the manu at this time. I have read the prescribing information liberally and I have found they really set up a crappy little study considering the amount of people this was going to apply to!! Really, they tested it on about 4500 people prior to pulling a total Bill Gates and rendering the general public the next unofficial Beta group.. LOL They probably sold that much in the first 5 mins it was available... Further, they have really been playing down post marketing reports it seems, and bringing more study groups on line in very controlled / pre-planned segments. There is conspiracy smell here to say the least... But I cant resist as It clearly is a important find if it cessates, at least for a while to forget the habit....

So anyone got any horror stories for me. Or facts will sometimes do as well.

[Michael Scally MD]

See: http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/mens-...tml#post742571 AND http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/mens-...tml#post712056

[CubbieBlue]

Originally Posted by BBC3

Been trying to start it lately to kick the chew. Really strong mojo me thinks. First dose and I was projectile vomiting. Few days late back on the horse. Lasted 2-3 starter days and had some wild off to the races with the heart brief (Tachycardia I think), and early one morning in the "heart attach hour". So I got paranoid and took a beta blocker that I am prescribed for BP occasional. Did not have any more issues, but did not take another that day. I See that Chantix is both an Alpha & beta actor. Is it any wonder peoples hearts are doing tricks on it, and really unaddressed by the manu at this time. I have read the prescribing information liberally and I have found they really set up a crappy little study considering the amount of people this was going to apply to!! Really, they tested it on about 4500 people prior to pulling a total Bill Gates and rendering the general public the next unofficial Beta group.. LOL They probably sold that much in the first 5 mins it was available... Further, they have really been playing down post marketing reports it seems, and bringing more study groups on line in very controlled / pre-planned segments. There is conspiracy smell here to say the least... But I cant resist as It clearly is a important find if it cessates, at least for a while to forget the habit....

So anyone got any horror stories for me. Or facts will sometimes do as well.

I had a friend of a friend have some semi-permanent horrible mental side effects from it. I would stay the fuck away.

[chemman]

Originally Posted by BBC3

First dose and I was projectile vomiting.

Hard to smoke while blowing chunks. These psych drug makers really got it figured out!

[Crazy Crew]

Originally Posted by chemman

Hard to smoke while blowing chunks. These psych drug makers really got it figured out!

LOL

Worked for me, though I did have some wild dreams. I kept smoking for a while, but got to the point I just didn't want to any longer. It's not a 30 day cure take months to do it properly.

It is known to have side effects (some severe) and that is why they start you on half doses to see how you will react to them.

[BBC3]

First and my preliminary thoughts are that any phychological issues are related to nicotine, and not chantix. People smoke for a reason. Its very theraputic. So you take this away, tweek the receptor only a little, and you have a pissed off camper. I GUARANTEE that if they took 5000 smokers cigarettes away, you would have an even higher rate of psychosis given that they dont even get the partial receptor stimulation.. LOL Further, notice it says mental issues after stopping the drug. Well, go figure, you take a fellow and stimulate his nicotine receptors and he is really SMOKING... Now take away the drug and presto, you have THE TRUE DAY ONE OF STOPPING SMOKING. So really. I have my doubts on this described psycholsis.

However, I will say that my CPAP was on the floor this morning and I was disconnected never even waking. I just really pray it does not lend to, or open the door for active night terrors.!!! You are now talking folks in danger for real...

I am forging onward still attempting with no issues today. My concern is the cardio aspect. I suspect there are some real issues here that are unaddressed. I think it may in part be due to the fact that people using it have already f'd up their circulatory systems with cigs. But that 180 BPM pulse flutter shot I got the other day was real, and a first for me. Apparently I am not the only one either.... I am not all that unhealthy...

[BBC3]

Did you see. I asked for a referral and I was the last one preaching on that thread... LOL. At least I did not condradict myself.....

Originally Posted by Michael Scally MD

See: http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/mens-...tml#post742571 AND http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/mens-...tml#post712056

[IanMac]

I found this Saturday while researching this for a family member:

The potential for a Chantix lawsuit is being reviewed and evaluated on behalf of individuals who:

•Committed or attempted suicide on Chantix
•Suffered severe physical Injury as a result of sudden abnormal behavior
•Diagnosed with new on-set diabetes from Chantix
•Developed Stevens Johnson Syndrome or Toxic Epidermal Necrolysis due to Chantix
•Suffered severe physical injury or death from an Accident or Fall caused by seizures, black-outs, vision disturbances or other sudden problems
The anti-smoking drug has been linked to a number of psychological side effects and other problems which could be caused by the effect the drug has on the brain.

However, Chantix problems have also begun to surface at an alarming rate, making it one of the drugs most associated with severe adverse events according to the FDA's Adverse Event reporting system.
The active ingredient in Chatix acts on the brain, which has led to a number of problems and side effects, which the manufacturer failed to adequately research or warn about. Since it was first approved through an expedited priority review, the FDA has required Pfizer to add information to the Chantix warning label about a possible increased risk of suicide, suicidal thoughts and abnormal behavior seen among users of the drug. However, lawsuits are also being reviewed for a number of other Chantix problems which have caused severe injury or death for a number of users.

This was at Chantix Lawsuits - Chantix Lawyers - Chantix Class Action Lawsuit. There will probably be a class action against Pfizer because of Chantix.

Peace,
Ian

[BBC3]

Thanks,
Thats amazing still not reflection on the heart and circulatory probs. Throbosis, blood clotting, cardia CNS episodes..... Incredible. Apparently the market is providing an alibi here by inhere condition/risk. I do keep reading fair attempts to discount these issues to damage already done, and probably so to some degree. But I dont want a freaking deep vein blockage, or a stroke because some tiny piece of plaque broke off is a heart race off... Further, I dont need any long term permannent damage. I am clearly experiencing Tennitis, and deafness can apparently result. Reading the info one would asssume temporarty, but I dont think so. I have never seen many CNS damage issues repair well in my studies. So the rish may be far to high for this experiement on me...

Originally Posted by IanMac

I found this Saturday while researching this for a family member:

The potential for a Chantix lawsuit is being reviewed and evaluated on behalf of individuals who:

•Committed or attempted suicide on Chantix
•Suffered severe physical Injury as a result of sudden abnormal behavior
•Diagnosed with new on-set diabetes from Chantix
•Developed Stevens Johnson Syndrome or Toxic Epidermal Necrolysis due to Chantix
•Suffered severe physical injury or death from an Accident or Fall caused by seizures, black-outs, vision disturbances or other sudden problems
The anti-smoking drug has been linked to a number of psychological side effects and other problems which could be caused by the effect the drug has on the brain.

However, Chantix problems have also begun to surface at an alarming rate, making it one of the drugs most associated with severe adverse events according to the FDA's Adverse Event reporting system.
The active ingredient in Chatix acts on the brain, which has led to a number of problems and side effects, which the manufacturer failed to adequately research or warn about. Since it was first approved through an expedited priority review, the FDA has required Pfizer to add information to the Chantix warning label about a possible increased risk of suicide, suicidal thoughts and abnormal behavior seen among users of the drug. However, lawsuits are also being reviewed for a number of other Chantix problems which have caused severe injury or death for a number of users.

This was at Chantix Lawsuits - Chantix Lawyers - Chantix Class Action Lawsuit. There will probably be a class action against Pfizer because of Chantix.

Peace,
Ian

[CubbieBlue]

Originally Posted by BBC3

Thanks,
Thats amazing still not reflection on the heart and circulatory probs. Throbosis, blood clotting, cardia CNS episodes..... Incredible. Apparently the market is providing an alibi here by inhere condition/risk. I do keep reading fair attempts to discount these issues to damage already done, and probably so to some degree. But I dont want a freaking deep vein blockage, or a stroke because some tiny piece of plaque broke off is a heart race off... Further, I dont need any long term permannent damage. I am clearly experiencing Tennitis, and deafness can apparently result. Reading the info one would asssume temporarty, but I dont think so. I have never seen many CNS damage issues repair well in my studies. So the rish may be far to high for this experiement on me...

If you really want to quit you can do so without taking a possibly life altering pill bro.