David Z's Primer on TRT, HCG and E2 Management - Part 1 of 2

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David - great reading! Thanks for posting this.
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David - great reading! Thanks for posting this.
You're welcome, earthdog. Glad you enjoyed it.

I'd like to post the tables of Total and Free T levels from the Appendix of the Primer, but can't do it until someone shows me how to attach a word document here. The table is awesome. It shows average Total and Free T levels by 10-year age group from 2 different studies that correlate extremely well Included in the tables are mean and standard deviation values as well as 5th, 10th and 95th percentile values.
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Nice work, David!

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David,

You are now taking HCG daily. Have you noticed any improvements over your previous regimen and if so what are they. Have you had to make any other adjustments to your regimen with regards to selegiline and DIM.

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David, You are now taking HCG daily. Have you noticed any improvements over your previous regimen and if so what are they.
I like daily shots better. (Thanks, Swale!)

I don't feel different, but it feels more even and my protocol is much easier to manage.

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Have you had to make any other adjustments to your regimen with regards to selegiline and DIM.
Yes, but the adjustments have been very easy. I no longer have to take a different amount of DIM each day. The only tricky part was finding my maintenance dosage which I was able to do very quickly based on years of experience with this stuff. I switched to daily shots in early April and my blood test at the end of April was T=682 (260-1000), Free T=151 (50-210), E2=39 (13-54) which is pretty good for a first test after a protocol change.

I stopped taking Selegiline. My understanding of why I was taking Selegiline was to boost my h/pa to produce LH on the "off days" per Shippen. Since there are no more off days and I was on such an incredibly low dosage it didn't matter much anymore. The funny thing about Selegiline is that the longer you take it, the less you need.

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David,

Do you know what your DHT labs are by any chance?

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David, Do you know what your DHT labs are by any chance?
Yes, my DHT runs low-normal. I started using a very small amount of DHT cream about 3 weeks ago. See discussion here:

http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/showt...hp?t=134235572
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good find. I'll make this a sticky for future reference.
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Hi David Z

I saw the first part of your primer,
but where is the second one,
from chapter 5 forward????????

Best regards, Lukas
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