Dr Crisler associated with Sweat Lodge tragedy

Discuss Dr Crisler associated with Sweat Lodge tragedy at the Men's Health Forum; Originally Posted by Jeton the writer has his own agenda, and he makes subjective assertions without bothering to even offer ...

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Old 01-07-2010, 08:16 PM
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the writer has his own agenda, and he makes subjective assertions without bothering to even offer a rationale, let alone a citation or footnote. he's correct that others will try to use this incident to restrict patient freedoms, but he appears to be in that camp himself.

James Arthur Ray may himself try to blame Dr Crisler, time will tell what Ray's attorneys have decided.

Ask him a aquestion - abelpharmboy (at) gmail (dot) com.

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Old 01-07-2010, 08:35 PM
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what did u have in mind to ask him? i already commented on his blog at that link...
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what did u have in mind to ask him? i already commented on his blog at that link...
I already commented on his shit ass blog LOL
SOunds to me someone just is crying out for attention..
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Dr. John is the most anti-steroid Dr. in the country. He is not a Internet Doctor -people have to either and see him, or have their local doctors ask him to consult.

I am sorry but your full of it for saying this I don't like to get in to crap about stuff like this but tell it like it is.
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James Ray was a patient of Dr Crilser - he was prescribed Test Cyp, HCG, HGH, Arimidex and Finasteride by the doctor

Sedona Sweat Lodge Tragedy: Search Warrants Served - Prescott eNews

It is peculiar why a man of Ray's means living in Carlsbad, CA, would be prescribed drugs by an internet physician in Michigan rather than seeing a board-certified endocrinologist or urologist at one of the outstanding medical centers in southern California.or going to an anti-aging clinic in California.

Nevertheless, Dr. Crisler appears to have done nothing illegal in prescribing this regimen to Mr. Ray. Physicians in the United States, whether they are MDs or DOs, are granted the latitude to prescribe any FDA-approved medicine for any indication they see fit. While it is illegal for drug companies themselves to promote "off-label" uses of drugs (i.e., indications for which the company has not received explicit FDA approval), a physician can legally prescribe a breast cancer drug to a man wishing to build lean muscle mass.
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Dr. John is the most anti-steroid Dr. in the country. He is not a Internet Doctor -people have to either and see him, or have their local doctors ask him to consult.

I am sorry but your full of it for saying this I don't like to get in to crap about stuff like this but tell it like it is.
Agreed..... To say that Dr Crisler was "associated with Sweat Lodge tragedy" is ludicrous to infer just because he had a patient there. I guess if one of them were diabetic their doctor would be associated too. If there were Coca Cola cans lying around then I guess Coca Cola was associated .
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Old 01-08-2010, 03:59 PM
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Dr. John is the most anti-steroid Dr. in the country. He is not a Internet Doctor -people have to either and see him, or have their local doctors ask him to consult.

I am sorry but your full of it for saying this I don't like to get in to crap about stuff like this but tell it like it is.
There is so much ignorance in the media. They make no distinction between doctors that prescribe TRT to patients in their offices and doctors that sell prescriptions for steroids to bodybuilders over the internet without a legitimate face-to-face doctor-patient relationship. Everyone here knows there is a big difference.
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Yes and because of this Dr.'s don't want to treat men that are sick with low Testosterone they don't want the lable.
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Old 01-08-2010, 04:18 PM
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Yes and because of this Dr.'s don't want to treat men that are sick with low Testosterone they don't want the lable.
It always doesn't help that the DEA classifies testosterone (and other AAS) as a controlled substance.

The media and the DEA should not dictate or influence how medicine is practiced.
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Old 01-25-2010, 10:21 PM
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check out this retarded-ass interview James Arthur Ray gave New York Magazine, and a separate opinion piece on it...

Q&A With James Arthur Ray on the Tragedy at His 'Spiritual Warrior' Sweat Lodge -- New York Magazine

Oprah Guru Breaks His Silence about Sweat Lodge Death in the Worst Way Possible - james arthur ray - Gawker
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