Importance of morning erections?

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Old 08-30-2007, 07:29 PM
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Based on pre-T tests, my T level seemed to be around 400 or so. Probably average libido, but at age 51 I can't remember ever having had morning erections (maybe I've just forgotten after all these years). Either T or HCG alone will produce them. I have had low grade depression most of my adult life. But my question is whether morning erections are considered a gold standard by doctors for whether T levels are too low or is that something people on this board are just more focused on?
Definitely higher libido and fix for erectile problems on T, but not sure it has done anything for depression-certainly doesn't work for me to give up my minimum dose of Celexa.
My dilemma is that I hate to be on T long term if I can get by without it (12 mg of Viagra solves the erectile problem). I hate to get into a life long program to raise T levels only modestly (maybe to 600) especially since I can see it significantly accelerating hair loss.
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:01 PM
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Based on pre-T tests, my T level seemed to be around 400 or so. Probably average libido, but at age 51 I can't remember ever having had morning erections (maybe I've just forgotten after all these years). Either T or HCG alone will produce them. I have had low grade depression most of my adult life. But my question is whether morning erections are considered a gold standard by doctors for whether T levels are too low or is that something people on this board are just more focused on?
Definitely higher libido and fix for erectile problems on T, but not sure it has done anything for depression-certainly doesn't work for me to give up my minimum dose of Celexa.
My dilemma is that I hate to be on T long term if I can get by without it (12 mg of Viagra solves the erectile problem). I hate to get into a life long program to raise T levels only modestly (maybe to 600) especially since I can see it significantly accelerating hair loss.
First of all do not concentrate on TotalTestosterone level, that is of secondary importance.
You want to have FreeT~250 on dr Shippens chart

With proper FreeT level you have a good chance at getting rid or preventing
depression
circulatory problems
bone problems
excessive weight
libido/erection problems

if you do not care about all this, nobody will convince you.
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Old 08-30-2007, 10:52 PM
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I guess I provided too much info. My basic question was whether doctors regard the lack of morning erections as one of the key criteria for assessing hypogonadism, aside from the standard blood tests.
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Old 08-30-2007, 10:57 PM
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I guess I provided too much info confusing the issue. My basic question was whether doctors regard the lack of morning erections as one of the key criteria for assessing hypogonadism, aside from the standard blood tests. Unfortunately, T levels in the middle or top or range haven't alleviated the mild depression.
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Old 08-31-2007, 06:43 AM
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Unfortunately I can't directly answer your question either but I can tell you this: My T levels are fine (750) and I don't have morning erections. My problem is low thyroid and adrenal fatigue. AF is the cause of no morning erections. I have depression issues too. The best thing for you to do is get a complete hormone panel done- check the stickies.

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Old 08-31-2007, 08:38 AM
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I`m not a doctor but none of them has ever asked me about morning erections. Dont think its any kind of standard. You really should get some blood tests done on your thyroid, adrenal and pituitary hormone levels.
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Old 08-31-2007, 11:25 AM
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Most Dr.'s will not ask about morning wood or even ask if you have ED. But if you tell a Dr. you lost morning wood this is a flag going up something is wrong. Same with ED there are all kinds of health problems that can cause this.

Your problem is Celexa. the will give you a loss of morning wood and ED and can lower your T levels.
http://www.mhsanctuary.com/rx/testos.htm
If your levels are 400 this is normal for a man over 84 yrs. old and going around with low t can shorten your life.
http://men.webmd.com/news/20070605/l...wnl_men_072407
Most men that feel depression that go on TRT don't feel this way anymore I have been on TRT for over 24 yrs and never lost my hair do to it.
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Old 09-02-2007, 01:49 PM
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Actually, the Celexa didn't stop morning wood when I was supplementing with T. The big problem with Celexa is loss of sensation and delayed ejaculation. As common as this is with SSRIs and since it is one of the big reasons for non-compliance you would think a drug company would bother to address this huge market. But then they would like you to believe only a small percentage of people experience this.
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Old 09-02-2007, 06:13 PM
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PE treatment is one of the uses of Citalopram. The opiates are better in my book, but thts not an approved use. As little as 1mg often takes care of mine. Sometimes more sometimes none at all.
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Old 09-03-2007, 12:51 PM
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Unfortunately I can't directly answer your question either but I can tell you this: My T levels are fine (750) and I don't have morning erections. My problem is low thyroid and adrenal fatigue. AF is the cause of no morning erections. I have depression issues too. The best thing for you to do is get a complete hormone panel done- check the stickies.
How did you find out about AF causing lack of morning wood? I havent heard that before. How is your libido Kimura?

Yowzer, were you on a transdermal testosteron? Like a cream or a gel? If so, switching to shots will could likely stop any hair loss your experiencing. Have you already lost some or are you just worried about it? Steer clear of finasteride IMO.

Your probably the first person ive seen on this board who has gotten his libido higher, then settled for less again. Your easily pleased...! If not for the sexual improvements, I would get your T sorted because like JansZ said, low T is not good for your overall health and your risk for complications in other areas goes up considerably over time.

As far as I know, lack of morning erections are related to too much estrogen, though im sure there are other reasons for it and no, I would certainly not base any diagnosis on lack of morning erections. It could mean anything.
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