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the HCG Stimulation Test
If you can't get to a good doctor' At least twist arms for HCG treatment. Don't settle for test.
Good article

A Primer on HCG and Dr. Shippen's HCG Protocol (2 of 8) (hypothalamus depression nail testicular down) - Mombu the Medicine Forum

Anouther good read

Jeffrey Dach MD Bio-Identical Hormone Blog: HCG for Low Testosterone, Thanks to John Crisler D.O.
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I starting to feel like a broken record and when the smoke all clears if you decided to go TRT you will look back in 6 months saying GOD I should have listen. A member here the dr's tried to do the same thing at a younger age. They started him on on 50 mgs of testoseterone a week for 4 months then tested him and said his levels was fine. When I got a hold of him he was eating fruit like a mad man very little fat in diet in wrong ratio. at 21 his t levels were 191. We started replenishing his nutrients test levels started to come up. We where going to start clomid but he wanted to get another opinon so he went to see Dr John. I last heard that he is still not doing well because he most likely went back to his old ways and never followed up nutritoinal probably why he failed. Another guy 24 T 200 and just by adjusting thyroid and adrenals his T levels are now over 700 and just fine tuning him right now.
Okay honestly I understand the possibility of it being my thyroid and adrenals, you preach this enough, but seriously what is it that you ACTUALLY do to combat these problems to get them better. You have been telling me about these people you have helped but how have you done it?
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Do you beleive I can get this done?
It is in their guidelines
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If you can't get to a hormonal specialist then in my uneducated opinion, HCG for you is far and away the better choice over testosterone.
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If you can't get to a hormonal specialist then in my uneducated opinion, HCG for you is far and away the better choice over testosterone.
Could I get the endocrinolgist to try it?
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If you can take enough documented medical references (the benefits of HCG over Testosterone) to back up your concerns she should take your concerns seriously. You can do the same for restart protocols. Again you'll have to prove it to her thru documented studies and or papers by medical experts. To get a leg up you can gather your information and mail them to her before your next appointment to give her time to review them. Be sure to highlight the most important areas since most likely she will just glance over them.
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It is hard to say men trying to do a restart will try Clomid and or HCG maybe getting yout testis to make testostreone your bain will see it and start up again. So when you stop HCG it sends the LH and FSH messages again. I am not sure how this works but it works for some.
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Would hcg help my body come back on it's own, It's been 8 months no improvement I doubt with out anything to stimulate my pituitary it will come back on it's own;
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I starting to feel like a broken record and when the smoke all clears if you decided to go TRT you will look back in 6 months saying GOD I should have listen. A member here the dr's tried to do the same thing at a younger age. They started him on on 50 mgs of testoseterone a week for 4 months then tested him and said his levels was fine. When I got a hold of him he was eating fruit like a mad man very little fat in diet in wrong ratio. at 21 his t levels were 191. We started replenishing his nutrients test levels started to come up. We where going to start clomid but he wanted to get another opinon so he went to see Dr John. I last heard that he is still not doing well because he most likely went back to his old ways and never followed up nutritoinal probably why he failed. Another guy 24 T 200 and just by adjusting thyroid and adrenals his T levels are now over 700 and just fine tuning him right now.
What do you mean by adjusting thyroid and adrenals?
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