Stopping Androgel due to Hair Loss

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Old 08-31-2011, 04:15 AM
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Just posting this as an FYI to members using or considering using Androgel.

Late last year, with test levels around 200, I was prescribed 5mg / 4 pumps of Androgel per week. The improvement in quality of life and libido were noticeable. The application was a piece of cake. The solution dried quickly. Test levels jumped over 900. I was extremely pleased.

However, over the last 8 months or so, my hair has started to thin on the crown and recede along the temples. In an attempt to stem to hair loss, I plan to drop the gels and switch to injections. I'm hopeful that the injections will lead to a lower DHT conversion rate versus the transdermals. I won't use finasteride or dutasteride because of negative past experiences; I want to avoid those drugs in the future.

The injections won't be as convenient, but if they preserve some hair, the trade-off will be worth it.

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Old 08-31-2011, 04:52 AM
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Just posting this as an FYI to members using or considering using Androgel.

Late last year, with test levels around 200, I was prescribed 5mg / 4 pumps of Androgel per week. The improvement in quality of life and libido were noticeable. The application was a piece of cake. The solution dried quickly. Test levels jumped over 900. I was extremely pleased.

However, over the last 8 months or so, my hair has started to thin on the crown and recede along the temples. In an attempt to stem to hair loss, I plan to drop the gels and switch to injections. I'm hopeful that the injections will lead to a lower DHT conversion rate versus the transdermals. I won't use finasteride or dutasteride because of negative past experiences; I want to avoid those drugs in the future.

The injections won't be as convenient, but if they preserve some hair, the trade-off will be worth it.

Best,
Monte
Did you measure DHT?
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Old 08-31-2011, 06:55 AM
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who needs hair
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Old 08-31-2011, 10:50 AM
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Have you tried finasteride locally ? or minoxidil ?
finasteride doesn't have the same efficacy when used topically but at least you'll avoid some side effects and save your hair a little bit
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Why should injections not cause hair loss? Is this a fact or only theory?
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Why should injections not cause hair loss? Is this a fact or only theory?
doesn't increase DHT

but androgel doesn't always either!
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Old 09-01-2011, 11:35 PM
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doesn't increase DHT

but androgel doesn't always either!
I think exogenous T, regardless of the method of adminstration, metabolizes into both DHT and E2. How much where is individual.
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I think exogenous T, regardless of the method of adminstration, metabolizes into both DHT and E2. How much where is individual.
The prevailing theory is that TD leads to more reduction of the T and hense more DHT since the reductase enzyme is present in skin cells. What this doesnt explain is, since the reaction takes place within the cell how the DHT gets back out.
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Did you measure DHT?
Great question. Everybody wants to react to perceived causes and symptoms, but nobody seems to want to do the blood work to back it up.
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Old 09-05-2011, 01:40 AM
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Great question. Everybody wants to react to perceived causes and symptoms, but nobody seems to want to do the blood work to back it up.
I understand it can be expensive, but this is your health. You only have one body. You are worth it.


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DragonRider (and Dr. Scally above): DHT levels were not tested as my endo would not authorize.

As for reacting to the perceived causes and symptoms, all I can state is that, prior to the Androgel application, I had no issues with MPB. I'm hopeful that injections will lessen the conversion of T to DHT. I realize this is far from a guarantee, but elevated DHT levels seem to occur frequently on the gels (I'm basing this off anecdotal reports from other TRT sites).

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