2016 Presidential Election

Discussion in 'Political Discourse' started by BigNattyDaddy, Oct 19, 2018.

  1. BigNattyDaddy

    BigNattyDaddy Member

    Who did you vote for in the last election?
  2. Never voted. Never plan to.
  3. BigNattyDaddy

    BigNattyDaddy Member

    Anarchist? :D
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  4. Nah. i feel like no matter who gets in, were pretty much screwed anyway, and one vote never made a difference. :D
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  5. BigNattyDaddy

    BigNattyDaddy Member

    I'm the opposite, I think that no matter who the president is, the elections that really have an impact on us are city, county, etc. The local ones. A lot of people just want a scapegoat for their problems.
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  6. flenser

    flenser Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

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  7. flenser

    flenser Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

    "Most Americans understand this, which is why nearly half of them do not vote. It’s humiliating enough to be forced to live, and attempt to support a family, and so on, in a savage, neoliberal marketplace with virtually no social cohesion whatsoever, and in which the only real operative value is money, without also having to debase themselves by participating in the simulation of democracy that the capitalist ruling classes need to maintain in order to pretend that they are not just social parasites with a lot of goons and guns."

    Please Remember Not to Vote!
    C.J. Hopkins • October 15, 2018

    So, it’s three weeks before the US midterm elections, and it looks like we have got ourselves a horse race! That’s right, folks, once again, it’s time to start playing with those forecast maps on Real Clear Politics and FiveThirtyEight, and obsessively following the fluctuating poll numbers of congressional candidates you have never heard of competing in districts you couldn’t locate if someone held a gun to your head. You need to start doing this immediately, if not sooner, as the stakes in these midterms could not be higher. Nothing less than the continued existence of “American democracy” hangs in the balance, so the ruling classes need every last one of us to get out there and vote for somebody!

    The fact that it only marginally matters who that somebody that you vote for is should not dissuade you from voting for somebody. Voting for somebody is your civic duty, and is no less important than rooting for a sports team, or maintaining a personal favorite color, or celebrity, or brand of hemorrhoid creme. Remember, if you don’t vote for somebody, somebody else is going to win, and we can’t afford to let that happen!

    Now, your choices this year are particularly exciting, despite the fact that they are exactly the same as in every other US election since approximately the 1970s. Yes, that’s right, once again, it’s the Transgender Panethnic Communists of Color versus the Old White Cisnormal Capitalist Nazis, and what a spectacle it promises to be! The Old White Cisnormal Capitalist Nazis (hereinafter the “OWCCN”) currently control … well, pretty much everything (i.e., the House, the Senate, and executive branch), and so the Transgender Panethnic Communists of Color (hereinafter the “TPCoC”) are hungry, and are looking for some serious payback after getting their butts kicked in 2016. Rumor has it, the TPCoC are preparing to unleash a “Blue Tsunami” on vulnerable OWCCN incumbents, take control of the House of Representatives, and then not impeach the ass clown President they’ve been telling everyone for the last two years is both a traitorous Russian intelligence asset and the resurrection of Adolf Hitler.

    And, if that isn’t exciting enough for you already, they’ve got all kinds of other life-and-death issues to emotionally pressure you into picking a team to fanatically root for on social media, and then getting out and voting for somebody. How blatantly to humiliate illegal immigrants, how affluent you have to be to obtain an abortion, how much interest banks can charge when you pay for your chemo with an Amazon card, and which pronouns law enforcement officers are required to use to refer to people whose homes they barge into and unintentionally murder, are just a few of the many “hot-button” questions requiring your democratic input.

    Other questions, like whether to invade or just strategically bomb Iran or Syria, or some other non-ball-playing Middle East country, or pour billions more in military aid into Israel, or sell billions in weapons to Saudi Arabia, or foment a coup in Venezuela, or maintain almost eight hundred military outposts in over seventy foreign countries all around the world, are questions that do not require your input. The global capitalist ruling classes, the corporations they own and operate, their friends in the government and the intelligence agencies, and the corporate media will take care of all that. Same goes for those Wall Street banks, and the next looming global financial crisis, and those mass extinctions, and this wacky weather. The grown-ups with the fancy suits and haircuts are handling all that complicated stuff. You just worry about all those other issues, and get out there and vote for somebody!

    Seriously, though, for those unfamiliar with the ins and outs of U.S. politics, our election cycle, and these midterm elections, and thus do not have the slightest idea what I’m even referring to, here’s what’s going on in a nutshell …

    On November 6, 2018, Americans will be returning to the polls to exercise their inalienable right to choose between two corporate-financed, ruling class-vetted political stooges competing for the chance to pretend to represent them in the House of Representatives and the Senate, and in various gubernatorial, municipal, and somewhat lesser distinguished chambers. A selection of non-ruling-class-vetted candidates will also appear on a handful of ballots. Americans will be free to vote for such candidates, as long as they realize they are just wasting their time, and possibly damaging the “serious” candidates, which the corporate media will remind them they are doing at every available opportunity.

    See, unlike in backward European countries, where some semblance of a parliament still exists, and there are actual campaign finance restrictions and limits on televised campaign advertising, in the United States, where everyone is free, voting for non-ruling-class-vetted candidates, in a midterm or any other election, is about as effective as voting for a sandwich … or for, you know, some narcissistic billionaire ass clown who swears he is going to “drain the swamp,” and build “a beautiful wall,” or whatever. The system is designed to guarantee that no matter which ruling class stooge you vote for, and even if you vote for a character like Trump just to stick it to the establishment for once, it makes no difference … or, OK, very little difference.

    The reason for this is not a big mystery. When a seat in the Senate goes for ten million dollars and a seat in the House for over a million, and there are no real restrictions on campaign financing, and the corporate-owned media decide in advance which candidates will be given airtime, and considered “serious” by the mainstream pundits who work for the handful of corporations that own the vast majority of newspapers, television and radio stations, and internet platforms that control the flow of information to the American public … well, it would kind of be a little odd, wouldn’t it, if authentic anti-ruling-class candidates were allowed to enter and compete in that system?

    Most Americans understand this, which is why nearly half of them do not vote. It’s humiliating enough to be forced to live, and attempt to support a family, and so on, in a savage, neoliberal marketplace with virtually no social cohesion whatsoever, and in which the only real operative value is money, without also having to debase themselves by participating in the simulation of democracy that the capitalist ruling classes need to maintain in order to pretend that they are not just social parasites with a lot of goons and guns.

    Which brings me to the point of this essay. See, normally, I try like hell to avoid telling people what to do in my columns, but, after my last one, a number of readers wrote in asking for advice, so I’m going to make an exception, just this once.

    Here’s my advice. You’re not going to like it.

    Do not vote. For anyone. At all. Tell all your friends not to vote for anyone. Join the hundreds of millions of Americans who refuse to participate in the simulation of democracy. Take time off from work to vote, and then do not vote. Go see a movie, or have lunch with someone you haven’t seen in a while, or take a nice, long walk in the woods or something. Whatever you do, do not vote. Seriously. Please stop voting for these people. They’re not your friends. They mean you ill. They will shake your hand, kiss your baby, then sell you to the first pharmaceutical lobbyist, or military industrial lobbyist, or Israeli or Saudi Arabian lobbyist, that waltzes into their office with a check, or that threatens to turn their voters against them.

    You probably think I’m kidding. I’m not. Do not vote in these midterm elections. Or in any other American elections. Not while the system remains as it is. If you really want to vote, move to Europe, where at least there are still parliamentary structures, and a decent variety of political parties, and some restrictions on campaign financing and advertising. All you’re doing when you vote in America is reifying a simulation of democracy, and so perpetuating the system as it is.

    Oh, and while you’re at it, if you happen to work for any of those pharmaceutical companies, or any of those weapons manufacturers, or their suppliers, or for an investment bank, or a hedge fund, or private equity firm, or any other company, corporation, firm, consultancy, or department of government that is central to keeping the American political and economic system going as it is, quit your job and do something else. Seriously, go into the office today (or get up from your desk right now) and quit, and go find something else to do with the gift of your sentient life on this planet. I realize that might be a scary proposition, but that’s what it’s going to take to change things, a lot of people deciding they have had it and are not going to play the game anymore.

    That’s pretty much all the advice I’ve got. Sorry … I told you you weren’t going to like it.
  8. Mac11wildcat

    Mac11wildcat Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

    Did the above post really advocate for the EU? They’re putting people in jail for memes and Facebook posts...

    Agree with a lot of the points made..but that isn’t one of them. Neither is “don’t vote.”

    Also, we’re a constitutionally limited democratic republic. The difference there matters.

    My vote goes to whoever I believe will least fuck up with the concept that I’m for the constitution being used to limit the government not the people, individual rights, and small government at all levels but especially at the top.
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  9. flenser

    flenser Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

    I think he meant their parliaments are more democratic than the American version. I doubt he's advocating them, but I haven't read enough of his stuff to know what he really thinks of democracy in general. I'm of the opinion democracy and freedom are mutually exclusive. That is, unless you are a member of the elite in a democracy. Then you are free to do all sorts of creepy shit.
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  10. Mac11wildcat

    Mac11wildcat Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

    I don’t know you, but you’re alright haha. Democracy, atleast by the lefts current standard, is mob rule. It’s why we aren’t a democracy and the popular vote doesn’t decide national elections.
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  11. master.on

    master.on Member

    That's why our founding fathers knew that stupid southerns, who do nothing but procreate kids in abject poverty, would win all elections.
    Hence no popular vote.
    Too stupid to build machines themselves, so they remain agriculture dependant.
  12. Mac11wildcat

    Mac11wildcat Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

    Um, what the fuck? I don’t even know where to start with that nonsense. Have a blessed day.
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  13. Consider the source. This is the same broken robot that was taking Letro off cycle and advocates cycles with no testosterone.
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  14. Mac11wildcat

    Mac11wildcat Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

    Also the “whitest muscely boy you know” searcher too, right?

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  15. Voted for Gary Johnson
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  16. master.on

    master.on Member

    Not only early southerns were to dumb to build machines (and guns), they were too lazy to do the farming themselves. So they had to bring slave labor.
    That was centuries ago, and not necessarily means that current southerns are lazy or stupid.
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  17. flenser

    flenser Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

    So is everyone ready for post election riots? I see quite a few people, Dems and Republicans alike, predicting blood in the streets (or maybe just on campuses) if the Dems don't at least take the House. Odds of that seem a lot less certain than even a week ago. The pollsters are already hedging and making excuses, and hardly a vote has been counted yet.
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  18. Mac11wildcat

    Mac11wildcat Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

    They say that, but will do nothing aside from trash some police cars and storefronts as usual. The “blue wave” seems to have evaporated, atleast from my exposure.
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  19. flenser

    flenser Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

    Man, what a complete waste of time. Almost no entertainment value at all. The thousands of retweets in the thread above likely swayed not a single vote, and very likely alienated more than a few against the opinions of the mad Dr. Spam be they political, environmental or medical.

    At the gym this morning I could see the CNN screen over by the tread mills going on and on about "historic" election results and something about a referendum against Trump. Which fits in well with the rest of their meaningless blather. In media code everything that follows the word "historic" will be spun to seem like it advances their agenda. The results were actually pretty much in line with every other mid term election, and now Trump has someone to blame when the markets finally tank.

    The most entertaining part? Instead of the dead voting for Democrats, this time the living voted for a dead Republican. That is to say, it was an "historic" election of the most qualified candidate without prejudice against race, gender or morbidity.

    Democrat Defeated By Dead Brothel Owner In Nevada Legislature Vote
    by Tyler Durden
    Wed, 11/07/2018 - 10:05

    Upset victories by a Democratic candidates for US Senate and the Nevada governorship drew national attention to the political news cycle in the Silver State Tuesday night. But lost amid the flurry of headlines was the landslide victory by Nevada brothel owner Dennis Hof, the self-described "Trump from Pahrump", who clinched a seat in the state legislature despite having died three weeks ago.


  20. NorthMich

    NorthMich Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

    I hope trump has acid indigestion today, and is all out of Rolaids