Aegean Analyzer - Steroid Lab Tests

[T-Bagger]

What would that prove? Except nothing at all.

Anyone can choose when they want to lie or deceive. That’s a rather silly test: Hey sir, I heard you are a liar, so I’m going to ask you a test question to see if you answer truthfully. And if you do, you will get my business.

Completely and utterly SILLY!

To me it would prove if the new guy really knows what he’s doing and it will prove if Jano is doctoring/making up stuff. But you’re right - at any given time after this, Jano could fake results. Being that it’s anonymously sent, there’s no way either analyzer would know who it’s from and would serve no purpose to lie.

 

[Sdryx]

Jano is not needed whatsoever in looking at another testing source. Conflict of interest period. Jano should not be mentioned here nor be here period. This lab should be analyzed based upon itself, not Jano.

 

[master.on]

Jack off, I meant, Jano, you’re an extremely knowledgeable person when it comes to these test results and graphs, to bad you’re a crooked arrow that don’t fly right. You could have been THE man around here.

Only that @janoshik doesn't own or has access to any chromatography equipment.
He criticizes other people charts

but he never posted any GC-MS reports or charts,
and "his" HPLC charts can be for any unrelated substance, even industrial chemicals.
Ne never posted his testing method, even though you can get them for free all over the Internet.

He never posted pics of his chromatography equipment.

Members need to understand organic analytical testing has a very steep learning curve that requires not only the proper education, tools, technology and procedural skills but also a broad fund of knowledge based upon access to empirical data and a practical understanding of how to apply all the above in such a manner to yield consistently CREDIBLE results. {IMO a credible quantitative result for PEDS approximates at least 90% while a qualitative assay should reach 99% of the comparative standard}

And for this reason analytical chemists are in VERY high demand and readily earn a six figure income, and for this and other reasons few if any
are remotely interested in PED testing. As one chemist lamented “there’s just no money in it Doc”

Unfortunately, for many (like Jano!) in the clandestine arena the temptation and monetary rewards for nefarious activity such as fraud
deceit, and collusion exceeds the
desire to perform PED testing in compliance with traditional standards, and for that reason IMO any AAS analytical lab MUST
release procedural, graphic and narrative sample data at least on a periodic basis.

The latter is critical since doing so provides customers with a means of assay checks and balances.

Jim

Rest assured whatever Janos questions are they have a self serving bias and basis.

Absolutely true
he criticizes other people charts and reports when never posted any of them himself.

One of the few guys who can actually review a method

Then how come you never disclosed your own testing method?
especially when you can find dozens of methods online for free

The simple answer is that you don't want to get caught lying.

Those HPLC charts you posted are for unrelated, industrial chemicals, not for steroids.
You want to avoid getting caught lying with retention times in the chart posted that wouldn't match any steroid test.

When will you post you own GC-MS charts and reports like Aegean did?

Also I have seen that lab testing is MUCH more complicated than what I thought it would be at the beginning.

It ain't THAT complicated
because you ain't developing the testing method from scratch yourself.
You're just following an existing method.

Now the complicated things are
1 Equipment is expensive
2 Getting certified reference standards
3 Trying to get accurate results with internal standards instead of certified ones.

I would love to see @Turkish Pharmacy send the same batch to both @aegean analyzer and @janoshik and see what both come up with (anonymously, of course).

Sadly at the time, Jano is all we have so it would be great to see if the results are the same or completely different. And then post up both results.

That'd be great.

Jano is not needed whatsoever in looking at another testing source. Conflict of interest period. Jano should not be mentioned here nor be here period. This lab should be analyzed based upon itself, not Jano.

Jano invaded Aegean thread.

 

[Steve84]

How do you even know that????????????? You understand what is being said? Or are you simply assuming the implied jargon is absolute and valid simply because it overwhelms you? He could be overusing jargon for that very reason and you aren't going to say he's wrong. Well I say, who is to say he is right!?

I have no idea what is being said. But neither does any other member.
However what he does say is google'able to look at what he says. The problem therefore is no one understands how to criticize a testing lab.
And I do know what he says because he helped me fix a mistake by Analyzer. Which he admitted he fucked up after Jane's review.
Different story but the idea is there....

I actually support more of the send both labs blind tests and see how they turn out.

 

[master.on]

I have no idea what is being said. But neither does any other member.
However what he does say is google'able to look at what he says. The problem therefore is no one understands how to criticize a testing lab.
And I do know what he says because he helped me fix a mistake by Analyzer. Which he admitted he fucked up after Jane's review.
Different story but the idea is there....

I actually support more of the send both labs blind tests and see how they turn out.

Either he Googles out every word he posts, or he actually took some QUICK courses on the subject.

At the end it doesn't matter
@janoshik doesn't own or has access to any chromatography equipment, so he can't test any gear.

As evidenced by the fact that he constantly refuses to post
1 Equipment pics
2 GC-MS (or LC-MS) charts and reports
3 pics of his reference standards
4 Details of his testing method.
He does so because "his" HPLC charts are actually charts for other unrelated chemicals, probably industrial chemicals
and he wants to avoid getting caught lying red handed.

 

[janoshik]

Either he Googles out every word he posts, or he actually took some QUICK courses on the subject.

At the end it doesn't matter
@janoshik doesn't own or has access to any chromatography equipment, so he can't test any gear.

As evidenced by the fact that he constantly refuses to post
1 Equipment pics
2 GC-MS (or LC-MS) charts and reports
3 pics of his reference standards
4 Details of his testing method.
He does so because "his" HPLC charts are actually charts for other unrelated chemicals, probably industrial chemicals
and he wants to avoid getting caught lying red handed.

No stupid, I don't refuse to post anything.

I just refuse to waste my time with a lunatic like you, there's a huge difference.

I have no idea what is being said. But neither does any other member.

@master.on included.

 

[rpbb]

Only that @janoshik doesn't own or has access to any chromatography equipment.
He criticizes other people charts

but he never posted any GC-MS reports or charts,
and "his" HPLC charts can be for any unrelated substance, even industrial chemicals.
Ne never posted his testing method, even though you can get them for free all over the Internet.

He never posted pics of his chromatography equipment.








Absolutely true
he criticizes other people charts and reports when never posted any of them himself.




Then how come you never disclosed your own testing method?
especially when you can find dozens of methods online for free

The simple answer is that you don't want to get caught lying.

Those HPLC charts you posted are for unrelated, industrial chemicals, not for steroids.
You want to avoid getting caught lying with retention times in the chart posted that wouldn't match any steroid test.

When will you post you own GC-MS charts and reports like Aegean did?




It ain't THAT complicated
because you ain't developing the testing method from scratch yourself.
You're just following an existing method.

Now the complicated things are
1 Equipment is expensive
2 Getting certified reference standards
3 Trying to get accurate results with internal standards instead of certified ones.




That'd be great.




Jano invaded Aegean thread.

@master.on aren't you the idiot running running all over this board giving made up dangerous advice on how too run gear. Quit making up your shit and get lost

 

[movingiron88]

No stupid, I don't refuse to post anything.

I just refuse to waste my time with a lunatic like you, there's a huge difference.


@master.on included.

I have to wonder why you refuse to post. Even if it is just to prove @master.on wrong if he is.

Seems very fishy to me you wont post proof. You are on here all day every day but cant waste your time to refute an allegation.

 

[rpbb]

Aside from all the drama, when are we going to start seeing test results from the 2 new labs

 

[master.on]

@aegean analyzer how's the testing going?

 

[rpbb]

@aegean analyzer how's the testing going?

Hopefully he put you on ignore

 

[MindlessWork]

@aegean analyzer how's the testing going?

While I see your intentions as noble, you have been pushing way too hard so no wonder people have been reacting negatively towards you. Let the community make the judgment about these new testing labs.

 

[master.on]

While I see your intentions as noble, you have been pushing way too hard so no wonder people have been reacting negatively towards you. Let the community make the judgment about these new testing labs.

Aegean looks like the only legit UG testing lab around
He even posted real GC-MS reports.
At first I thought Aegean was actually @Analyzer with a new handle.

 

[MindlessWork]

Aegean looks like the only legit UG testing lab around
He even posted real GC-MS reports.
At first I thought Aegean was actually @Analyzer with a new handle.

Fair enough then but let the results tell the story if these new test labs are on the level or if they are true frauds.

 

[onslaughter]

Idk who to even go to lol...

I wanna test some new powder I'm gonna buy. No...I'm not gonna say what powders.
If I send a sample, shouldn't they be able to know what it is?

This is all so confusing to me. But shouldn't we be able to weed out the scamners by simply sending a random product to be tested? Of course this would have to be confirmed the same/legit by another tester

Sigh...
PM is filled with scammers (mods, sources, reps)
I

 

[T-Bagger]

Idk who to even go to lol...

I wanna test some new powder I'm gonna buy. No...I'm not gonna say what powders.
If I send a sample, shouldn't they be able to know what it is?

This is all so confusing to me. But shouldn't we be able to weed out the scamners by simply sending a random product to be tested? Of course this would have to be confirmed the same/legit by another tester

Sigh...
PM is filled with scammers (mods, sources, reps)
I

If you’re talking about common AAS, yes, you can send in blind samples. Not sure about HGH.

 

[onslaughter]

If you’re talking about common AAS, yes, you can send in blind samples. Not sure about HGH.

Yes not hgh

 

[T-Bagger]

Yes not hgh

You’re good then. Jano and the W&M guy take blind samples of common oils and powders. I am unsure of Aegean, but I think he said he does as well. W&M is in the US.

 

[onslaughter]

You’re good then. Jano and the W&M guy take blind samples of common oils and powders. I am unsure of Aegean, but I think he said he does as well. W&M is in the US.

All the drama with jano wow

 

[T-Bagger]

All the drama with jano wow

Choose wisely bro