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Discussion in 'Steroid Homebrew' started by Thegreek, Nov 4, 2018.
What’s the solution
As you can see in the above photos the cloudy tren problem seems to be affecting a lot of people. Three brews with Tren a myself and two were cloudy. First brew was perfect. Second one I posted about was a disaster. This one started out cloudy but I was able to save it. The problem is moisture. However it’s not just moisture in the raws, it’s everywhere but I think it’s the glassware mostly. I had cleaned my glassware before brewing and even though it had dried it still retained moisture that I didn’t see until I reheated a different media bottle and saw moisture inside. I started out with my raws and solvents and added my heated oil. Both beakers had been cleaned and dried but I think there was still moisture around the glass and the environment. It clouded up after the oil and as you can see it looked like shit. It was them that I noticed moisture in a media bottle as I heated it up for something else. Thinking that moisture was the problem I began to stir and heat the unfiltered beaker. Never going above 200 and pulling off the heat around 180-190. I did this for a bout 15 min. On and off the heat and constantly stirring. It began to clear so I then filtered very warm into a very warm media bottle. As you can see it cleared up and looks mint. I think Tren a raws are very moisture sensitive and just need a little extra love when brewing.
Cool deal . It won't cloud once it cools will it?
Amazing how such a small amount of water would do that .
Great post btw
No. It’s still clear but it does have a swirl to it but that’s my fault because I decided last minute to run some hot oil through the filter and I think that’s why it’s just ever so slightly off from when I finished. All in all though it’s been over a week and every thing seems to be pretty good.
All good info.
I've got a npp run I need to get brewed up so I'm soaking everything in .
I’m curious to see how this holds over the next few days. I had some older tren a raws cloud up that only had swirls the first time I brewed it. I cold filtered the cloudy brew and it was crystal clear at first then clouded up in the next couple of days. I ended up just throwing it out.
Edit: The cloudiness was much less after cold filtering it but still more cloudy than I would have liked
What BA % are you guys using? Im thinking outloud here but I know alcohol and water (moisture) readily mix, I wonder if a little more BA could hold the moisture in suspension?
You shouldn’t have to add more of anything. Recipes are pretty basic. If something changes then there is another issue going on. Plus I doubt an extra 1 or even two percent would make that much of a difference in this case. Sometimes depending on the raw or carrier oil you might need a slight more BB but you really don’t need much more than 2 on BA.
You did 2/18?
Would be dangerous pinning it if it's a bit cloudy?
I’m pretty sure someone had the same issue and pinned it with no issues. I guess it would depend on why it’s cloudy. Assuming that every other aspect of brewing was followed accordingly. For this issue to be a constant topic on here I have say it’s eiher an issue with the raws or moisture. There can’t be this many people fucking up and creating the same outcome. I’m leaning towards moisture.
Same issue. First time all good, next time(same raws) cloudy. Only difference was 2nd time I threw raws and BB in beaker and let sit overnight covered. Tried reheating and filtering with no luck. Been pinning ED for 4 weeks, no issue. I think it's moisture too.
Done it plenty I’m still alive. Lots of tren raw coming with moisture past months
I'm gonna brew some up tomorrow or Sunday. What could you store raws with to pull moisture out?
I pack mine in a bunch of desiccant packets
The desiccant packs great idea. Although once in oil form and moisture still present, pain in the ass.
Several trips to the oven 2-3 minutes intervals to clear it up. Heat at 250 oven.
Repeat several times till clear. Had a friend do this and still wouldn’t clear. Told me he waited till the cloud settled. Refiltered and cleared it.
Mind you, I knew moisture made mine cloudy. Therefor I ignored it and pinned the clouds. No pip or discomfort
Best idea though is to try and clear it up.
I have some like this. Still safe to use right?
250 in oven don't break tren??