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anabolic rebound possible after a steroid cycle?

Discussion in 'Steroid Post Cycle Therapy and ASIH Treatment' started by 5millionbucks, Oct 7, 2019.

  1. 5millionbucks

    5millionbucks Member

    So most people know after dieting a while you get that rebound(glycogen, water, tissue gain) for the first few inital weeks going on a surplus after being a deficit for so long; whether you are natural or not(moreso if you stay enhanced.) I know that fat gain is very easy to be put on your body during pct(happened to me) I kept bulking after coming off cycle and gained mad fat. But say you diet down while on cycle whether it is for a show, a photoshoot, or just wanting to get shredded; when you come off and do PCT, if you eat on a surplus during that time will you just get fat? Or will your body have sometype of response where it shuttles the nutrients into your muscles because you were dieting for so long?
     
  2. DonaldPump123

    DonaldPump123 Member

    Really depends on how lean you get, if you are stage ready then you would definitely rebound nicely even off hormones, lots of competitors do this.
     
  3. Sworder

    Sworder Member

    Rebound is a very specific term that you are misusing.
     
  4. 5millionbucks

    5millionbucks Member

    How? I mean Dorian use to always talk about this when he was competing; right after a show you would gain the most amount of muscle for the year because of how your body partitions nutrients; but he was also on cycle I'm assuming majority of the year.
     
  5. 5millionbucks

    5millionbucks Member

    Really? I mean coming off test your cortisol levels are super high; test levels are low, if you are pretty shredded or stage ready wouldn't you gain a shitton of fat and not much muscle assuming you went straight into a bulk during pct?
     
  6. DonaldPump123

    DonaldPump123 Member

    No, your body is like a sponge at this point from all dieting and being at such a low body fat. After a show many will get off and make some ridiculous gains just due to the enhanced nutrient uptake from the surplus of calories with the benefit of also being able to push more weight. After a few weeks or even past a month that's when you would need to start pulling back
     
  7. Sworder

    Sworder Member

    You are confusing intracellular storage with "ridiculous gains."
     
  8. 5millionbucks

    5millionbucks Member

    regardless of it being intracellular storage or gains whatever you want to call it; wouldn't your body still be primed to go more towards fat storage rather than replinished glycogen because of high cortisol levels/estro?
     
  9. DonaldPump123

    DonaldPump123 Member

    No I'm not, you're going to keep getting stronger every week for a while at least. Yes some of it is intermuscular water/glycogen etc but if you've ever competed you know what I'm talking about
     
  10. DonaldPump123

    DonaldPump123 Member

    You're overthinking it. If you're retarded shredded and you start eating Inna surplus again you're going make gains hormones or no hormones. But it only lasts for a while before you will rebound in the other direction if you are on pct.
     
  11. Sworder

    Sworder Member

    So you are explaining some sort of super phenomenon which Science has ignored? And you think that the entire world hasn't discovered this truth instead of you having a failed understanding of biochem?

    If your statement were true, competing as many times as possible in a year would be advantageous because of this mystery phenomena...

    Google "rebound" and use that word correctly please.
     
  12. DonaldPump123

    DonaldPump123 Member

    Lol okay bro think what you want. I'll keep this "phenomena" to myself then. Thanks for stopping by
     
  13. Sworder

    Sworder Member

    Yeah please do keep that phenomena to yourself.
     
  14. Sworder

    Sworder Member

    Rebound is this:
    I start at 50, then I gain 25(75) and then I rebound and go down below my initial start down to 25.
     
  15. DonaldPump123

    DonaldPump123 Member

    Op listen to the "expert" he knows how to count to 75
     
  16. 5millionbucks

    5millionbucks Member

    so basically you have dieted alot on anabolics and then came off with a pct eating more cals than while you were on gear? I know peps who done this with only sarms(not very suppressive) and rebound greatly. But for some reason when u run test u basically shut down all production changing a lot of factors say high cortisol and high estro.
     
  17. DonaldPump123

    DonaldPump123 Member

    Done this before yes, and know of many other who have as well. I actually do it with no pct, but that's because I never come off long enough to justify a pct
     
  18. 5millionbucks

    5millionbucks Member

    Did you use only clomid, nolva after; or run gh/peptides along with it? Also would like to know how you adjusted your diet coming out of a cut; I know tdee changes after coming off; so was wondering bringing cals to maintenance level or a lean bulk, say 200-300 cal surplus?
     
  19. DonaldPump123

    DonaldPump123 Member

    No none of that. I would come off completely of everything, mostly because I get sick of injections after a show. Bring cals above maintenance by however much you would "lean bulk" with