Arimidex Sides? Gyno troubles please help out bros

Discussion in 'Steroid Post Cycle Therapy and ASIH Treatment' started by Kanepower, Apr 14, 2018.

  1. Kanepower

    Kanepower Member

    Hey everyone..So I started a cycle 2 weeks ago..Im two shots in of 500mg of test e, and I started the first 3 days with dbol at 10mg...Ive done a total of 3 cycles in the past with little to issues...So basically im really messed up at the moment. I took almost a year and a half without touching gear...just went natty and let my body reset. It took a while for me to get back to normal but I did. So basically my problem is..I started to get sensitive nipples very fast. So I began to take arimidex..which was from a ugl but from a trusted source. (not sure if im allowed to say but the labs name is Alpha Pharma based out of vancouver Bc...I Began taking 1mg of adex everyday with no success after a few days...Nips were still sore while working in my coveralls at my job..Was really annoying not to mention the mood swings lol. Thinking my adex is bunk and freaking out because i read that after the first adex tab u take it should have an effect..So I stupidly (Ima get flamed for this but understand I cant get Letro or nolva for a few days so I panicked) I took 2.5mg of adex today and yesterday more than 1mg...My question is what are the side effects of low estrogen in men? How do I know adex is working for sure? My nipples are way less sensitive now..and i noticed today at work i was really fucking sore. Like My rotator cuff...And my hand grip...(I work heavy labour) But this was a light day and 2 hours into the shift I began feeling pretty achey. I read that letro does this. Because it will eliminate/crash your Estro. My face is still a bit red...But not as bad. Im still getting mood swings though. I was planning on making an emergency trip to my GP tommorow to see whats really up. All I know is when i squeeze my fucking nipple ( dont ask why i did this LOL) Stuff comes out. Not much but a little. Also the lumps in my pecs have grown (I used to have a pea sized lump from my first cycle ever) they've grown alot..Not noticable yet but I wanna make sure im doing whatever is needed to put a halt to this shit..Is my adex real guys? Am i experiencing Progesterone related effects? I know bloodwork will be a simple easy answer...But that takes time. Im just freaking out and wanna know what is the best protocol...I used nolva my first cycle and it INSTANTLY stopped my nipples from being sensitive..My source says letro isnt the best because of sides and time it takes to build up levels..and That i should just take nolvadex..Sorry for the long ass story lol. I just know there are many knowledgeable members who will help my paranoid self out. OH YEAH P.S (I will only be procuring serms that are not from a UGL) Thanks everyone I appreciate all feedback.
     
  2. Kanepower

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    To be clear, if my arimidex is real. It didnt start having noticeable effects on my nipples till a week in....is that normal??? And for anyone whos got gyno...When the gyno progresses...Do you stop feeling the sensitivity? Like are those only warning signs. Or do they stay if your estrogen is high. Also ive read if my Estrogen is Crashed or almost nill I shouldnt be able to get erections? I mean i still can but i'd say they are less frequent than the past week lol. And yes it crazy that this gear has kicked in on my second pin...Im happy with the quality of both the dbol and the test..Very powerful. I dropped the dbol after 3 days due to seeing how dark my urine was after the gym one day. ( that day i took 20mg of dbol instead of 10mg...Lol. Now i remeber dbol having that effect on previous cycles..but it scared the shit outta me my piss was like orange almost light brown lol.
     
  3. Kanepower

    Kanepower Member

    sorry , Im three weeks into my cycle lol. This week was supposed to be my third pin...(I pin 500mg once a week) I didnt pin this week because Ive been so stressed from this adex problem..For future ill never ever start a cycle without having an AI and letro/prami on hand...and they are going to be pharma only. Cant risk it. Ill pay the extra bucks to get pharma cause i can..
     
  4. Dr JIM

    Dr JIM Member

    Read about the effects of nipple stimulation in females bc some of those effects can be elicited by
    farting around with your tits while running AAS.

    SO STOP SQUEEZING YOUR TITS
    for Gods sake, and if you don’t have a somewhat tender
    palpable lump in that mass of chest wall tissue you don’t have gynecomastia period.

    Have labs done an E-2 in particular and cease treating
    nipple changes with AIs or SERMS

    Finally throw the Prami in the trash or give those meds to someone with Parkinson’s disease
    or a pituitary tumor, bc D-2 agonists are of no proven benefit
    in cyclists.

    One last suggestion that you won’t comply with, see a Doc to confirm or refute a GCM DX

    Good luck
     
    Last edited: Apr 14, 2018
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  5. Kanepower

    Kanepower Member

    Much respect for the reply jim. I always see you helping people out regardless of the situation. But yes there is a lump of some tissue under both of my pecs...Its pretty soft. And not big, (Im very lean so im super paranoid of it effecting the way my chest looks lol) Its not noticabl
     
  6. Kanepower

    Kanepower Member

    But if I TOUCH OR SQUEEZE MY PECS (oh my lmao) I can feel there is a small lump forming around the bottom of each pec. Ill stop touching them as i was told not to mess with them as it will only make the situation worse and im sure it did...And no brother I take my health VERY seriously. Ive already gone for bloods to check my testosterone levels and liver values. I was mainly concerned about my liver and didnt think to check estro cause i was like 2 days into my cycle. ( YES I KNOW...NEVER START A CYCLE WITHOUT FIRST DOING BLOODS..)
     
  7. Kanepower

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    Heading straight to the docs tommorow morning since its the weekend finally have time...I plan to be honest with him as usual. No point in cheating my health. Wonder what he will say, obviously will get the e2 panel done before he says anything for sure. Will update my situation later if anyones curious or interested lol. But yeah this isnt my first cycle..Ive done 19NOR'S in my past cycles. The last cycle I did was a test/deca. Ive done tren ace for a few weeks one cycle as well. Maybe thats where the weird stuff that leaks out of my nipple when i squeeze it came from...LOL yeah i know its retarded to squeeze your nipple but i did it kinda hard where my nipple is but i squeezed hard and abit of water looking stuff came out..like a drop lol. Wasnt milk haha. I dont think im fully lactating..what the.. But i never had any lumps or effects like this cycle has given me...So quickly as well lol..I guess because I didnt take Caber/Prami? Are these meds useless? Prami specifically?? I heard dostinex is the way to go but unfortunately I can only get prami. Lol. Im going to stop taking the arimidex as I believe it is legit now because of the low estrogen sides im reading about. Hopefully Ill be better by monday as I cant train like this yet alone work lol. Today was brutal.
     
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  8. Morefyah

    Morefyah Member

    Stop over thinking it man. The last thing you need in your possession is Letro or Prami. For someone that has already run three cycles you should know all about AI’s and how too control your estrogen. You sound like your paranoid and a little bit of a hypochondriac!
    It’s highly unlikely 10-20mg of Dbol is stressing your liver and making your urine dark after three days. How much water are you drinking and have you been consuming alcohol? I have an old un visible gyno lump that sometimes gets larger when on cycle and completely goes away when I’m back on trt.
     
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  9. Kanepower

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    Thanks bro lol, your spot on im paranoid as fck for nothing...Like i said this is my fourth cycle i believe? But i took over a year and a half off because I was infertile. Planned on staying natural cause it took a while for my body to reboot fully. I stopped researching about AAS+ Searching the forums. Stupid i know..But yeah I was drinking when I was natural...Like a few beers on the weekend? Lol..Also for the dbol I was four days in and feeling great...Had the edge on ready to workout and rediculous pumps...it was when I got home from the gym and went to the washroom I freaked out. Like I said I remeber dbol always having an affect on my urine...e.g making it darker than ever... like that of someone DEHYDRATED lol.. but i drink GALLONS A DAY because i have to cause of work. Maybe I need more cause I do sweat alot at work?? Im constantly drinking to flush my kidneys on orals. Next day I took 0mg of dbol. Urine cleared up. And wow thats interesting that your old lump doesnt get effected by your trt protocol..I guess im really estrogen prone these days...and yeah these are SMALL doses compared to what I used to do. I did my second cycle 750mg of test and 40mg dbol for 26 days i believe. Obviously Im not used to the gear sides anymore Lol.
     
  10. Kanepower

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    Just an update my shoulder is still sore as shit today...Pretty shitty lol. Im hoping its my "joints"?? Im stopping the adex obviously and going for bloods in an hour haha. Again I work hard labour and I had an easy day and I still was feeling achey...Basically the reason behind my paranoia came from orals...I hate orals. But I love the effects of dbol and the way it makes me feel lol. And my sources adex he sold me...Im not familiar with the lab but i stupidly trusted him cause hes been great to me. I guess they might be real just underdosed. Cause i never had to take so much adex just to lower estrogen..but i also was never so prone to gyno. I barely needed to take adex. i used like 0.25mg every day or e0d..Again this week I was taking 1mg ED for multiple days..But yeah also after my last cycle my doctor told me hey your liver values are elevated and I just looked at him and he said he wasnt concerned.. LOL
     
  11. Kanepower

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    I will be the first to admit that I have much more to learn...Because from the forums I used to read...I should of always had letrozole (FEMARA) on hand in case you get bad gyno. As it will eliminate and possibly make that lump a little smaller. I know it cant reverse it. I know about anti estrogens Ive just never had a questionable labs Ai in my hands. Which threw me off. (little to no reviews online about this lab) One decent review and one bad one Lol..) Also one saying they ripped off mission another canadian ugl almost word for word on there satchets...I looked it up and they did. Thanks everyone. I appreaciate all the constructive criticism..Heh I know i deserve to be flamed for this post. I shoulda got back on the forums before jumping back on. But thank you guys. This is a game which is always evolving and you can always learn more.
     
  12. Kanepower

    Kanepower Member

    So doctor confirmed I do have mild gyno (Its not as bad as I think it is, but I can feel the lump on my left pec has grown pretty large. I dont know how it got outta hand to quickly, Ive never yet experienced such bad estrogen related sides. He prescribed me nolvadex (Ive personally used nolva to nip early signs of high estrogen gyno in the past succesfully..usually after the first 20mg of nolva my nips would be fine) I shoulda had some on hand but unforuntately my source only has clomid atm.) Im just wondering has anyone every gone under the knife? Is ths costly? Is this worth it? I asked my doctor he said in my case it wont be neccesary...But im planning on using AAS in the future. And I dont want the stress of worrying about this lump growing more..(hopefully it shrinks a tad, it usually does or time anyways when u get off gear in my experience...although my lump before was the size of a damn pea. and like very soft tissue...It is now harder. and Like I can grab the lump on my left...Since I now have my nolva and clomid. hcg im thinking of going straight into pct protocol as this cycle has been a disaster. Thanks for the help brothers.
     
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  13. Kanepower

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    Oh yeah, still waiting on my E2 panel. Curious to see my prolactin etc. Joints are no longer sore...(Thank god) So I guess my anastrozole was real after all. And im getting way more frequent erections also if that makes sense. Its been 2 days since I took any AI.