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BrownTown said:
Oh ok....tren does wonders for my physique but whenever I add it into a cycle I get all the sides you can think of and it really messes with my emotional well being. I turn into a whole different person, I become very jealous and paranoid and I get really moody. I try to only run tren once a year and I try to tell myself it's the tren making me like this but sometimes it just doesn't help. Lol I'm a head case without aas and it only intensifies it with it. Hope that explains it better.
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Makes sense bro. I'm in the same boat as you being a head case. Lots of people swear by running test just high enough from having levels crash and moderate levels of tren
 
Yeah bro I've experimented with that also, have done low test high tren and high tren high test and the tren always give me those sides. I've been blasting and cruising for years and probably get 2 good cycles in a year which is my spring/summer cut and my winter bulk. Luckily for me and everyone else I only run tren 10 weeks out of the year lol.
 
jackthegripper2 said:
Fair enough BD I will give some time for everything to build up. I could feel the test A right away after pinning the 400. Pip is pretty bad , what would u suggest?
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Pain is typical of very strong test. It is called PIP (post injection pain), and can be expected from potent test. You can google post injection pain and research it. That is actually a testament to how potent it is. Painful test comes because it is so saturated with testosterone, that is crystallizes in your muscle when it is injected. Your body then sees it as a foreign substance, and attacks the crystallization. This causes swelling, a hard lump, redness, and pain. You can also get flu like symptoms from this, which is called test flu. The more saturated with testosterone, the more it hurts. It is actually a sign that it is very strong test. Here is how to fix the PIP: You can mix it in the same syringe as your tren ace. This will dilute the test 400, making it more soluble and less likely to crystallize in your muscle. If this doesn't help as much as needed, get some grape seed oil and add that at a 1:1 ratio or less in the same syringe as the t400. This should now reduce or eliminate the PIP.
 
bdsupplements said:
Pain is typical of very strong test. It is called PIP (post injection pain), and can be expected from potent test. You can google post injection pain and research it. That is actually a testament to how potent it is. Painful test comes because it is so saturated with testosterone, that is crystallizes in your muscle when it is injected. Your body then sees it as a foreign substance, and attacks the crystallization. This causes swelling, a hard lump, redness, and pain. You can also get flu like symptoms from this, which is called test flu. The more saturated with testosterone, the more it hurts. It is actually a sign that it is very strong test. Here is how to fix the PIP: You can mix it in the same syringe as your tren ace. This will dilute the test 400, making it more soluble and less likely to crystallize in your muscle. If this doesn't help as much as needed, get some grape seed oil and add that at a 1:1 ratio or less in the same syringe as the t400. This should now reduce or eliminate the PIP.
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Pip is not always an indicator of potency. Especially not a testament. Pip can also come from too much ba, eo/other carrier allergic reactions, moving the needle too much during injection, and poorly brewed gear.

Don't take this as a comment on BD products, as I've never used them. I Just don't want a bunch of newbies running around the gym with infections thinking they have great gear. Pip is not always an indicator of anything but pain. Blood work is the only way to know for certain.

Again, nothing to do with BD products. Just a word of caution with PIP rumors.
 
jackthegripper2 said:
Your pack arrive yet?
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My apologies for the late response. Yes, I have all of the stuff I ordered and started the test prop last Wed. Hoping this stuff kicks in by the end of the week. A bit of pip that causes me to walk with a bit of a limp, but nothing I can't handle. He advised me to get some Grape Seed Oil, but will probably just throw that in on the next cycle.
 
jackthegripper2 said:
No offense Doc but I've had far better success with eroids than any of the shit UGLs on Meso. All be running bloods on this gear as I do with every lab.
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No doubt, I also found BD on eroids, and I also found a source for my girfriend for Anavar. Everything on there is not all bad... I only use sources with reviews from old active members with multiple review history.
 
Mr_Gainz said:
My apologies for the late response. Yes, I have all of the stuff I ordered and started the test prop last Wed. Hoping this stuff kicks in by the end of the week. A bit of pip that causes me to walk with a bit of a limp, but nothing I can't handle. He advised me to get some Grape Seed Oil, but will probably just throw that in on the next cycle.
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Just bought some GSO today will pin tomorrow and see if there a any diff. How long have you been on the prop? At what dose?
 
LifeSTRONG said:
What was your bad experience with domX?
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I think he said he tried to order and Dom X didn't pick up his payment. I've used Dom X a few times. His Heisenberg brand Test E is legit. I didn't get much off his liquid var but it was my first time running this compound...still was disappointed.
 
Yah I had a shitty experience with x about 3 years ago. It took over 5 weeks to get my kits of rips (domestically) and when they showed up there were no labels on them. The boxes were legit but who knows if it was rips or not. His kinda shitty with me after I emailed him about so I just never used him again.
 
BrownTown said:
Yah I had a shitty experience with x about 3 years ago. It took over 5 weeks to get my kits of rips (domestically) and when they showed up there were no labels on them. The boxes were legit but who knows if it was rips or not. His kinda shitty with me after I emailed him about so I just never used him again.
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I feel u man. Its like walking on eggshells with a lot of these labs.. theres no garuntee they'll help you out nor do they need to if they don't want to.
 
Mr_Gainz said:
My apologies for the late response. Yes, I have all of the stuff I ordered and started the test prop last Wed. Hoping this stuff kicks in by the end of the week. A bit of pip that causes me to walk with a bit of a limp, but nothing I can't handle. He advised me to get some Grape Seed Oil, but will probably just throw that in on the next cycle.
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The GSO was a life saver with this guys gear.
 
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