Be clear: sterile filtration will NOT remove coronaviruses from finished or semi-finished gear.

Discussion in 'Steroid Homebrew' started by master.on, Feb 14, 2020.

  1. master.on

    master.on Member

    If an infected chinese worker sneezes or coughs on your raws, semi or finished gear, filtration will NOT remove the viruses.

    Coronaviruses are about 120-125 NANOmeters long
    Coronaviruses: An Overview of Their Replication and Pathogenesis
    coronavirus | Definition, Features, & Examples

    Sterile filters usually have 0.22 MICROmeter pores

    120 nm = 0.12 um
    still short of the 0.22 um pore size, so viruses will pass trough.

    There are some 0.10 um sterile filters
    They may be borderline effective, but oil flows really slow through them.
    OTOH filtration hassles are still preferable to being infected with 2019-NCov.
     
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  2. ickyrica

    ickyrica Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

    Weekend release privileges I take it? :)
     
  3. Gbro

    Gbro Member

    Let your shit sit for a week. Virus is dead. It needs a living host.
     
  4. Iron Frenchie

    Iron Frenchie Member

    Should I be scared about the dehumidifier I just bought that was made in China lol
     
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  5. ickyrica

    ickyrica Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

    Nedi pot from ground zero...
     
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  6. Villain

    Villain Member

    Serious questions: would the bags be open to allow air in? Would that release the virus into the surroundings? Are there any raws that cannot be exposed to open air for any period of time?
     
  7. master.on

    master.on Member

    Point is:
    If your gear contains a viable virus, it will reproduce once you inject it in your body.

    And no, Benzyl Alcohol will not degrade/decompose it to render it safe.

    At the current time we don't know if that specific coronavirus actually degrades/decomposes itself while standing still.
    It probably doesn't. After all it was engineered as a bioweapon, thus designed to be as stable and resistant as possible.
    Smoking Gun? Chinese Scientist Finds "Killer Coronavirus Probably Originated From A Laboratory In Wuhan"
     
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  8. Gbro

    Gbro Member

    No
    No offense, but you don't know what you're talking about. Dead viruses do not reanimate. The virus wouldn't survive the trip to the states. You are fear mongering from a place of ignorance.
     
  9. master.on

    master.on Member

    They do survive.
    Many viruses last a long time.
    They will readily replicate once inside a suitable living being.
     
  10. Gbro

    Gbro Member

    No

    Maybe in the arctic permafrost. This virus will not survive. If it could, all commerce from China would be stopped immediately.

    You simply do not know what you are talking about
     
  11. Villain

    Villain Member

    If it’s a bio weapon (which I’m sure it is), then it can definitely mutate and be programmed to adapt.
     
  12. Gbro

    Gbro Member

    It's a virus. They're not magical nor mechanical. If it could survive the trip, everything shipped over here would have already infected us. Put down the tinfoil.
     
  13. master.on

    master.on Member

    Some naturally occurring viruses can last weeks or even MONTHS

    ...and from dry hay at 22°C after 20 weeks storage. Salting, curing and drying of hides of infected cattle has not been effective in inactivating the virus...

    ...The viruses were still viable after one week, one month and five months, respectively. ...

    ...SVDV. has been isolated from infected premises for as long as eleven weeks after swine herd depopulation and disinfection of the premises. ...

    https://www.oie.int/doc/ged/d8191.pdf

    While we don't know the specifics for the 2019-NCov, being designed for biowarfare, it makes sense that they designed it to last even longer than natural viruses.
     
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  14. Gbro

    Gbro Member

    This virus has already been tested and found to not survive on surfaces beyond a few days. Go ahead and revel in your ignorance.
     
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  15. Villain

    Villain Member

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  16. Gbro

    Gbro Member

    Did you even read the article? That "study" is based on "similar" viruses. It speculated using this gem- "Low temperature and high air humidity further increase their lifespan," says physician Günter Kampf at the Greifswald University Hospital."

    You're being paranoid.
     
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  17. Villain

    Villain Member

    A little paranoia can go a long way man. Now there are new articles out about how CV can possibly be on people’s luggage and airport workers can get infected.
     
  18. Idk I’d imagine if it was 100% man made they’d create something more virulent, something with the lethality of Ebola and with the contagiousness of measles. Maybe they already have that and this is their milder invention, or maybe this is their first attempt who knows. Either way I doubt it’s man made.
     
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  19. Villain

    Villain Member

    It’s more believable that it’s man made than the first narrative of being due to Chinese people eating bat soup. If I decide to go full retard tinfoil, I’ll post up some stuff.
     
  20. Elistheman

    Elistheman Member

    Virus is just a genetic code (RNA or DNA) warped in a protein casing (with certain modifications to make it resistant). Basically its not alive or dead. Its a matter of conditions that degrade the casing and the code so it could survive if the conditions allow conservation of protein, on paper.
     
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