Climate Change

Climate change deniers spout B.S., says Al Gore
Climate change deniers spout B.S., says Al Gore - Darren Samuelsohn - POLITICO.com

The former vice president and climate crusader told an Aspen Institute communications seminar Thursday that people who doubt climate science are the same ones who helped tobacco companies over four decades question the dangers of cigarette smoking.

"Some of the exact same people — by name I can go down a list of their names — are involved in this," Gore said. "And so what do they do? They pay pseudo-scientists to pretend to be scientists to put out the message: ‘This climate thing, it’s nonsense. Man-made CO2 doesn’t trap heat. It may be volcanoes.’ Bullsh—! ‘It may be sun spots.’ Bullsh—! ‘It’s not getting warmer.’ Bullsh—!”

Gore's speech to the Aspen Institute was first reported by Real Aspen, which added a brief audio segment of his comments Monday. Video of the event is expected to be available later this week, according to an official from the Aspen Institute.


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It was so fun listening to this. Now that the tide has turned and most Americans think it's a bunch of BS, Al Goracle is ticked and losses control of his emotions. I have never seen such a site and I laughed my a$$ off when I heard his frustration. There's a monster in the closet daddy! No son, there is not. Is to, is to, is to, is to, is to!!!!!
 
Now that the tide has turned and most Americans think it's a bunch of BS, ...!

Goddam dude, you are seriously lacking in basic reasoning skills. I don't give a shit about what most Americans think about Global Warming, I give a shit about the opinion of most scientists who are actually in a position and have the qualifications to have an informed opinion. Are you a member of the Flat Earth Society? I'm starting to think that you are just hopelessly deluded.
 
Goddam dude, you are seriously lacking in basic reasoning skills. I don't give a shit about what most Americans think about Global Warming, I give a shit about the opinion of most scientists who are actually in a position and have the qualifications to have an informed opinion. Are you a member of the Flat Earth Society? I'm starting to think that you are just hopelessly deluded.

Actually the real science is proving your group wrong at every turn. Do you read? Even heard of climategate? How about the NASA data being cooked? These stories about junk science just seem to escape you. It appears you are the member of the Flat Earth society and no - don't try to recruit me. I understand real science in a way you could not even begin to approach. I read the code from the IPCC with the commented lines about "fixing the data". Hide the decline. Heard of it? Nope, sorry dude but the climate deniers are winning the debate because the science is not there.

Here's an idea. The man who killed climate change hysteria in Australia wrote a book - his name is Plimer. Read it - you may actually learn something - like the head of one of the more prestigious groups investigating global warming is a specialist in....hold on to your hat....fossilized shit. Sorry, but the gig is up. The liberals attempt to grab control over more of my life will go when Obambi goes and the EPA is sent packing. Nobody believes the shit anymore, except for few ideologues who would not know a Gaussian distribution, convolution, probability distribution function, or a conditional probability if it crawled up their ass.

In the end, the truth always wins - even if the lies are backed by big money. That is the beauty of science. You can't fake it forever. In the end, data is data.

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The is no such thing as Global Warming. It's another fraud to carbon tax people. The climate does change but it's not because of carbon it's because of Chemtrails and that fucking, god damn invention, HAARP.
 
One thing I know for sure, you are not a scientist, We don't have sides or groups.

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Science is all about sides and groups. Einstein vs. the Quantum Physicists is the most famous. Stephen Hawking vs. Lee Smolin. Superstring vs. Loop Quantum Gravity. My God man, science is about disagreement. You are truly pathological.

The history of science is riddled with sides against each other, suicides due to the pressure and outcasting of members who ended up being right. I mean my God man, it's called a book. Try picking one up.
 
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Here is a great synopsis of real science on climate change: http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/12/14/climate-skeptic-we-are-winning-the-science-battle/ (Climate skeptic: We are winning the science battle | The Great Debate) and this is from 2009! Today, as polls show, the battle has been won and Obambi has to use extra-constitutional means by getting the EPA to raid the coffers of the people based on junk science that has been outed for two years. GirlyMan, a little Google search will show you the most recent catches in cooking the books - including the guy who shot pictures of those poor dying Polar Bears. Turns out he was less than honest and lost his funding. The list grows daily. That is why Gore blew up. His only audience is people like you who don't understand science.

The International Panel on Climate Change’s (IPCC) charter states that the organization’s purpose is to look for human induced climate change. The Non-governmental International Panel on Climate Change (NIPCC) does not have this problem. If we find support for human induced climate change, we say so. If we do not find support for human induced climate change, we say so. In fact, the first NIPCC report, of which I was a lead author, was called ‘Nature, Not Human Activity, Rules the Climate’.

We see no evidence in the climate record that the increase in CO2, which is real, has any appreciable effect on the global temperature. IPCC relies heavily on the surface temperature data, which is distorted by a deletion of a number of surface stations. The ‘best’ stations were kept – the ones around temperature islands and by airports.

Now the Climategate leak has shown that the surface temperature data that IPCC relies on is based on distorted raw data and algorithms that they will not share with the science community. The scientists implicated in Climategate have misused peer review and pressured journal editors to prevent publication of research that questions their research. They have taken control of the IPCC process and they have smeared opponents personally, rather than critiquing the research.

IPCC’s mandate states that its role is to assess the science in a comprehensive, objective, open, and transparent manner. Unfortunately, the process has been anything but comprehensive, objective, open, and transparent. Climategate exposed this flawed process, and now it turns out that global warming might have been ‘man made’ after all.

I have traveled around Europe for a month now, talking to colleagues and people who are concerned about the draconian policies being put in place. But we are winning the science battle; the alarmist has no evidence.

The World Meteorological Organization (UN-WMO) wanted to set the tone for the U.N. Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen by releasing a statement that says that the past decade has shown some of the warmest tempratures on record, based on the 160 year of instrumental data we have. Intended or not, the statement created the impression that anthropogenic global warming is the cause of increased temperature and that the IPCC was correct after all. Nothing could be further from the truth.

The WMO confuses (purposely?) two quite different concepts: temperatures, which are measured in degrees Celsius, and temperature trends, which is measured in degrees Celsius per year. Temperatures are of course at their highest right now as we are recovering from the Little Ice Age in the 1700’s. It may even become higher without any human assistance. It may even reach the high values seen in the Medieval Warm Period around 1100AD.

But the temperature trends are heading downwards, even as greenhouse gasses like CO2 are increasing in the atmosphere. This negative correlation contradicts the results of the models that IPCC relies on and indicates that anthropogenic global warming is quite small.

We are winning the science battle over climate change, because IPCC’s fabrication is unraveling, but we have not yet won the war. This will take just a bit more time.
 

Thanks Reinheart. I'm doing to do GirlyMan a favor and anticipate his comeback - that is assuming it is not just another barrage of witticism calling me an asswipe twenty times.

He is going to say that there are many scientists who agree with anthropogenic global warming. These are not the audience, they are the highly paid, grant rich presenters to the general public whom they are trying to fool. You and others like you are the audience.

Of course, the American public may not understand the science and were accepting it at face value, but they do understand a scandal and data manipulation and shady practices. With the break of Climategate, the outing of the IPCC, NOAA, and NASA and the cooking of the books to hide the decline, the public audience is now looking at the presenters and, in the immortal words of Al Gore they are shouting loudly and clearly:

BULLSHIT!
 
Why dont you grow up and take responsibility for the actions of the human race.

That's a refutation of the facts? It is you who are ignoring the data and scandals and being irresponsible. What a weak statement and very, very indicative of your implicit forfeiture of the argument. The books were cooked. The data does not show any surprising level of warming. Yes, it's a hot summer. Yes it was a cold winter. Weather, like shit, just happens. We are breaking records set in the 1920s. I guess the population was bigger back then and everyone rode around in rocket ships, ate beans, and farted alot. No wait, that actually did not happen. My God! How are you ever going to explain the fact that weather is cyclical? Oops.

When are you going to take responsibility for pushing an idea whose only goal is to control my life and hand over more power to the government and international bodies to police it? Your decision to buy the smoke and mirrors that has been exposed has real consequences on the livelihood of real people. Because of people like you this fake BS was allowed to run for years because nobody took the time to question it. Your the sheep, not me.

You are also now the winner of the weakest refutation award.
 
It is scientifically proven that this planet has see way higher temperature than we see nowadays as well as way lower temperatures.

The whole idea behind global warming is to carbon tax people and promote Agenda 21. Like it or not this is the truth and it's NOT some cheap ass conspiracy theory.

There's a reasoning behind everything that happens and the reasoning is profit and total control of the people.
 
I mean my God man, it's called a book. Try picking one up.

The major advantage of being a reasonable man is having the ability to recognize logical fallacies. The simplest and most basic logical fallacy is ad hominem. Virtually every one of your posts contains at least one of these, typically many. I've been trying to demonstrate to you that ad hominem not only instantly invalidates your entire point, it's also highly counterproductive. It hasn't been fun for me at all, and it seems I have failed. If you can't appreciate ad hominem then you are too dull to recognize the more intricate ones. (Can you see how that last ad hominem I threw at you not only invalidates my entire point but is also highly counterproductive?) Ah well, it's been fun playing with you. (Oops, there's another one.)
 
The major advantage of being a reasonable man is having the ability to recognize logical fallacies. The simplest and most basic logical fallacy is ad hominem. Virtually every one of your posts contains at least one of these, typically many. I've been trying to demonstrate to you that ad hominem not only instantly invalidates your entire point, it's also highly counterproductive. It hasn't been fun for me at all, and it seems I have failed. If you can't appreciate ad hominem then you are too dull to recognize the more intricate ones. (Can you see how that last ad hominem I threw at you not only invalidates my entire point but is also highly counterproductive?) Ah well, it's been fun playing with you. (Oops, there's another one.)[/QUOTE

]ad hominem is often required when dealing with smaller intellects. Repetition assists them in gaining the traction required to take the next step towards truth and understanding. And your point does not invalidate any of the arguments I have made - nothing in what you state even addresses the facts. And the point that ad hominem invalidates an argument is a weak one unless the entire argument is ad hominem. I thought you studied logic? You win the number two spot for weak refutation. Congratulations.
 
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