IgniterBlast

Junior Member
Hi All. To clarify this cycle is for information for myself only, I am not running this cycle I just want more information & your ideas/changes, I have been doing a lot of reading and browsing through forums, steroidology, steroid.com etc & have compiled together a 12 week cycle + PCT which I would like your opinions on. The dosages are light as I'm coming from the viewpoint of a second/third cycle as we all know Tren is not to be taken lightly. Let me know any changes you can think of. So just for arguments sake - say our user is 28, 6'2, 210lbs, 13%bf.

Diet = 2110 Calories/day
185g Protein
185g Carbs
70g Fats

Carbs will reduce by 25g every 3 weeks. Refeed day every 4th day.

Workout will be 4 days a week in the gym. 45 minutes slow/medium cardio 3 days mixed with 20-30 mins HIIT 2 days.

Cycle:

Testosterone E 500mg/week - Weeks 1-12
Trenbolone E 200mg/week - Weeks 1-10
Clenbuterol 80mcg/day - 2 weeks on 2 weeks off until week 11
Anavar 100mg/day - Weeks 1-14
Cytomel T3 50mcg/day - Weeks 2-12
Arimidex .5g/EOD - Weeks 1-10
HCG 500iu/week - Weeks 2-14


For PCT:

Aromasin 25mg/day - Weeks 15-16
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20 Weeks 15-18
Clomid 100/100/50/50 Weeks 15-18


My reasoning behind each is below:

Test E - Running with the Tren at a 2:1 Test:Tren ratio. Long half life suitable for 1 weekly injection, would be useful for someone running 2nd/3rd cycle who's not a fan of pinning regularly.

Tren E - Melt away body fat, add lean muscle mass, low water retention, without doubt one of the most powerful steroids around. 200mg/week to start off light & record side effects. Aware Tren A is faster acting & has a shorter half life, but read the effects of Tren E are lighter. Stopped 2 weeks before Test E to allow for easier recovery.

Clen - Powerful fat burning agent, enhanced metabolism. Simple oral to take.

Var - Along with being one of the mildest steroids around, var strongly preserves lean muscle tissue, yielding strength increases as well increasing the rate of recover & muscular endurance.

T3 - Enhances fat loss & promotes metabolism of proteins, carbs and fats.

Arimidex - Used throughout cycle to prevent against gyno & any possible water retention.

HCG - To keep the boys full and working, used during cycle to avoid any possible permanent damage. Ran until 2 weeks after Test E stops as it takes around 3 weeks for test levels to drop.

PCT:
Aromasin - stops test turning into estrogen, will clean up any gyno.
Nolvadex - Helps bring down estrogen levels after HCG & Test use.
Clomid - Binds to estrogen to prevent gyno, improves liver function and cholesterol

One question I do have is will there be a need for Aromasin, after Arimidex has been used throughout the cycle?

Opinions & help would be greatly appreciated
 
Hi All. To clarify this cycle is for information for myself only, I am not running this cycle I just want more information & your ideas/changes, I have been doing a lot of reading and browsing through forums, steroidology, steroid.com etc & have compiled together a 12 week cycle + PCT which I would like your opinions on. The dosages are light as I'm coming from the viewpoint of a second/third cycle as we all know Tren is not to be taken lightly. Let me know any changes you can think of. So just for arguments sake - say our user is 28, 6'2, 210lbs, 13%bf.

Diet = 2110 Calories/day
185g Protein
185g Carbs
70g Fats

Carbs will reduce by 25g every 3 weeks. Refeed day every 4th day.

Workout will be 4 days a week in the gym. 45 minutes slow/medium cardio 3 days mixed with 20-30 mins HIIT 2 days.

Cycle:

Testosterone E 500mg/week - Weeks 1-12
Trenbolone E 200mg/week - Weeks 1-10
Clenbuterol 80mcg/day - 2 weeks on 2 weeks off until week 11
Anavar 100mg/day - Weeks 1-14
Cytomel T3 50mcg/day - Weeks 2-12
Arimidex .5g/EOD - Weeks 1-10
HCG 500iu/week - Weeks 2-14


For PCT:

Aromasin 25mg/day - Weeks 15-16
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20 Weeks 15-18
Clomid 100/100/50/50 Weeks 15-18


My reasoning behind each is below:

Test E - Running with the Tren at a 2:1 Test:Tren ratio. Long half life suitable for 1 weekly injection, would be useful for someone running 2nd/3rd cycle who's not a fan of pinning regularly.

Tren E - Melt away body fat, add lean muscle mass, low water retention, without doubt one of the most powerful steroids around. 200mg/week to start off light & record side effects. Aware Tren A is faster acting & has a shorter half life, but read the effects of Tren E are lighter. Stopped 2 weeks before Test E to allow for easier recovery.

Clen - Powerful fat burning agent, enhanced metabolism. Simple oral to take.

Var - Along with being one of the mildest steroids around, var strongly preserves lean muscle tissue, yielding strength increases as well increasing the rate of recover & muscular endurance.

T3 - Enhances fat loss & promotes metabolism of proteins, carbs and fats.

Arimidex - Used throughout cycle to prevent against gyno & any possible water retention.

HCG - To keep the boys full and working, used during cycle to avoid any possible permanent damage. Ran until 2 weeks after Test E stops as it takes around 3 weeks for test levels to drop.

PCT:
Aromasin - stops test turning into estrogen, will clean up any gyno.
Nolvadex - Helps bring down estrogen levels after HCG & Test use.
Clomid - Binds to estrogen to prevent gyno, improves liver function and cholesterol

One question I do have is will there be a need for Aromasin, after Arimidex has been used throughout the cycle?

Opinions & help would be greatly appreciated
100mg anavar for 14 weeks? Are you getting blood work before and mid cycle?.
 

Cutter

Member
Hi All. To clarify this cycle is for information for myself only, I am not running this cycle I just want more information & your ideas/changes, I have been doing a lot of reading and browsing through forums, steroidology, steroid.com etc & have compiled together a 12 week cycle + PCT which I would like your opinions on. The dosages are light as I'm coming from the viewpoint of a second/third cycle as we all know Tren is not to be taken lightly. Let me know any changes you can think of. So just for arguments sake - say our user is 28, 6'2, 210lbs, 13%bf.

Diet = 2110 Calories/day
185g Protein
185g Carbs
70g Fats

Carbs will reduce by 25g every 3 weeks. Refeed day every 4th day.

Workout will be 4 days a week in the gym. 45 minutes slow/medium cardio 3 days mixed with 20-30 mins HIIT 2 days.

Cycle:

Testosterone E 500mg/week - Weeks 1-12
Trenbolone E 200mg/week - Weeks 1-10
Clenbuterol 80mcg/day - 2 weeks on 2 weeks off until week 11
Anavar 100mg/day - Weeks 1-14
Cytomel T3 50mcg/day - Weeks 2-12
Arimidex .5g/EOD - Weeks 1-10
HCG 500iu/week - Weeks 2-14


For PCT:

Aromasin 25mg/day - Weeks 15-16
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20 Weeks 15-18
Clomid 100/100/50/50 Weeks 15-18


My reasoning behind each is below:

Test E - Running with the Tren at a 2:1 Test:Tren ratio. Long half life suitable for 1 weekly injection, would be useful for someone running 2nd/3rd cycle who's not a fan of pinning regularly.

Tren E - Melt away body fat, add lean muscle mass, low water retention, without doubt one of the most powerful steroids around. 200mg/week to start off light & record side effects. Aware Tren A is faster acting & has a shorter half life, but read the effects of Tren E are lighter. Stopped 2 weeks before Test E to allow for easier recovery.

Clen - Powerful fat burning agent, enhanced metabolism. Simple oral to take.

Var - Along with being one of the mildest steroids around, var strongly preserves lean muscle tissue, yielding strength increases as well increasing the rate of recover & muscular endurance.

T3 - Enhances fat loss & promotes metabolism of proteins, carbs and fats.

Arimidex - Used throughout cycle to prevent against gyno & any possible water retention.

HCG - To keep the boys full and working, used during cycle to avoid any possible permanent damage. Ran until 2 weeks after Test E stops as it takes around 3 weeks for test levels to drop.

PCT:
Aromasin - stops test turning into estrogen, will clean up any gyno.
Nolvadex - Helps bring down estrogen levels after HCG & Test use.
Clomid - Binds to estrogen to prevent gyno, improves liver function and cholesterol

One question I do have is will there be a need for Aromasin, after Arimidex has been used throughout the cycle?

Opinions & help would be greatly appreciated
What's the end goal here? ...manipulation of your nutrition and training is how you cut! ...not throw all these compounds at it..period!
Have you run clen before? Terrible compound, it will eat away as much muscle as fat, it doesn't care
T3?...now you want to jack with your thyroid to loose a couple % of bf?
You can get your bf down to 10-9% natty, no need to run a cycle like this! Scrap it and start over...put the work in, dial in your nutrition, don't fall into the more drugs are better trap, unless you are making your living from your body then there is no reason to have bf below 10% anyway, it's not healthy to carry that low of bf year around
If you need help with the nutrition, pm me and I'll get you going in the right direction, take it or leave it your choice, but do NOT run this shit cycle!
 

Dr JIM

Member
IF you have been "doing A LOT of reading and lurking" the sources are typical "bro-science" MISINFORMATION such as: That's your FIRST MISTAKE, relying upon forum opinions exclusively to formulate a cycle, and the SECOND is an absence of pre-cycle labs and THIRD, FOURTH, FIFTH bla, bla, bla

- Tren "melts fat away"

- Var preserves LBM presumably more than any other AAS AND enhances endurance

- HCG keeps the boys working is grossly oversimplified and mischaracterized

- as listed the primary utility of SERMS and AI's are reversed but neither bind to Estrogen or "improve" hepatic function

And this is your FIRST cycle and at age TWENTY you are running FIVE PEDS one being a HIGH DOSAGE ORAL agent for FOURTEEN WEEKS.

ANOTHER 20 something year old who is NOT ready to cycle and as starter "proof" lets see your PRE-CYCLE labs!

Post your PICS! AND YOUR REASONING FOR RUNNING AAS!

Kids like yourself are destined for a variety of complications many of which can be significantly minimized or in some instances prevented entirely.
 
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IgniterBlast

Junior Member
100mg anavar for 14 weeks? Are you getting blood work before and mid cycle?.
From a practical point of view then yes, blood work would be done.


IF you have been "doing A LOT of reading and lurking" the sources are typical "bro-science" MISINFORMATION such as: That's your FIRST MISTAKE, relying upon forum opinions exclusively to formulate a cycle, and the SECOND is an absence of pre-cycle labs and THIRD, FOURTH, FIFTH bla, bla, bla

- Tren "melts fat away"

- Var preserves LBM presumably more than any other AAS AND enhances endurance

- HCG keeps the boys working is grossly oversimplified and mischaracterized

- as listed the primary utility of SERMS and AI's are reversed but neither bind to Estrogen or "improve" hepatic function

And this is your FIRST cycle and at age TWENTY you are running FIVE PEDS one being a HIGH DOSAGE ORAL agent for FOURTEEN WEEKS.

ANOTHER 20 something year old who is NOT ready to cycle and as starter "proof" lets see your PRE-CYCLE labs!

Post your PICS! AND YOUR REASONING FOR RUNNING AAS!

Kids like yourself are destined for a variety of complications many of which can be significantly minimized or in some instances prevented entirely.

As stated DR Jim, the cycle shown is mainly research for me, there won't be a running of the cycle but as Big_Paul said earlier mistakes sink in more when you sort them yourself so I would rather make mistakes now than make them when the time comes for me to do a cycle. I'm years off a cycle and I'm aware of that - so any advice on what should be different would be beneficial. I know losing body fat is down to your diet regardless of what is being taken, & what is being overcomplicated about HCG?
 
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