DHT Based Steroids?

Discussion in 'Steroid Forum' started by akiravp82, Apr 28, 2011.

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    akiravp82

    akiravp82 Member

    Which steroids convert to DHT? or better yet is there a steroid that is just straight DHT?
     
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    Michael Scally MD

    Michael Scally MD Doctor of Medicine


    Is this a trick question? DHT
     
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    Bill Roberts

    Bill Roberts Steroid Forum Leader

    No pharmaceutical anabolic steroids except testosterone convert to DHT.

    Some prohormones such as androstenedione, 4-AD, and DHEA have some conversion to DHT.

    None of the currently sold "prohormone" products convert to DHT, except "4-DHEA" to some extent.

    DHT itself has never been available in the United States as an injectable or oral pharmaceutical drug.

    It has been tried transdermally and contrary to what some might expect, its use did not result in observed prostate problems. One study is described at: The Effects of Transdermal Dihydrotestosterone in the Aging Male: A Prospective, Randomized, Double Blind Study -- Kunelius et al. 87 (4): 1467 -- Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism

    A likely reason for that is concurrent reduction of estrogen levels. Estrogen can be a worse culprit for the prostate than androgens.
     
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    akiravp82

    akiravp82 Member

    Thanks for the response guys! the reason im asking is because im currently on TRT and the injections nor gels are raising my DHT, about two years ago i was on 10grams of androgel daily and my DHT was x4 above the reference range! then i stopped androgel and took a two year break with TRT and now starting 10grams of androgel daily again its not moving my DHT one bit! stuck at 12ng/dl and beleive me i can feel the symptoms of it i cant even feel my penis in my pants i cant even get blood flow to my penis no matter what girl is in front of me and since USA doesnt have DHT gel im stuck and dont know what to do at this point.....
     
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    Bill Roberts

    Bill Roberts Steroid Forum Leader

    I would give masteron or Proviron a try.
     
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    akiravp82

    akiravp82 Member

    Which one of those two drugs is more safe? and can they be taken longterm?
     
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    Bill Roberts

    Bill Roberts Steroid Forum Leader

    They are both very safe when used at low dose.

    If you monitor LH levels, which is not an expensive test at all, and determine that LH is not being too adversely affected or you adjust dose downwards until it is not, there would be no problem with long term use.

    If trying masteron I'd use 100 mg/week, divided into at least two or preferably three injections per week, assuming it's the usual enanthate ester.

    For Proviron, I'd try occasional 50 mg usage, with experiments to see if lower dose will work well.

    If used every day there would be some suppressive effect (50 mg/day has been shown in the scientific literature to be significantly suppressive) but whether it would be excessive in any individual case can't be said without testing.

    If preferring to measure testosterone, in the case of Proviron it occurs to me now it could make sense to take a large dose, such as 200 mg, an hour or so before the test and then see if the T result comes back unusually high. If not, then the test is not falsely detection Proviron as being testosterone, and so one could rely simply on T testing rather than LH testing,

    But an LH test can be as low as about $40 anyway.
     

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