Does HGH raise testosterone levels?

Discussion in 'Steroid Forum' started by Gunrunner, Sep 16, 2013.

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    Gunrunner

    Gunrunner Active Member

    I was trying to research this but couldn’t come up with much information. I want to know if taking HGH would raise testosterone levels. Does anyone have any studies or input on this subject?

    I did find this but it’s not really a study:
    “I am often asked if HGH therapy raises testosterone levels or if testosterone replacement raises human growth hormone levels.
    Let’s clear this up right now…..testosterone raises HGH…not the other way around. Clear enough? Any A4M board certified doctor will know this but not so for unqualified people replacing hormones so patient beware”

    Does HGH therapy raise testosterone or does testosterone replacement raise HGH? | Kim Crawford, M.D.-Anti-Aging doctor-Florida
     
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    johnnyBALLZ

    johnnyBALLZ Awesome Member

    No it does not.
     
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    solo47

    solo47 Active Member

    Well, it seems to cause gyno in some guys, so take that for what it's worth. It doesn't raise testosterone levels itself, no. How could it? But it has some subtle effects that are similar.

    Solo
     
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    Gunrunner

    Gunrunner Active Member

    Bear with me on this and maybe it will go somewhere. I'm just looking for more info on the subject and while searching found a few articles like this one:

    "When artificial human growth hormone is injected, it stimulates the pituitary gland to produce more of the natural human growth hormone. Once released into the body, the natural human growth hormone begins stimulating other areas of the anatomy. One of those areas is the testicles, which are told to up the production of testosterone in order to increase muscle mass and sexual desire among other things. The process could be seen as a chemical "waking up" of other hormones in the male body to produce the results that would be seen in a younger man."

    How Does HGH Increase Testosterone? | eHow
     
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    foreveryoung

    foreveryoung Active Member

    this doesn't seem logical
     
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    solo47

    solo47 Active Member

    I guess you can find almost any perspective. I don't know the biochemistry exactly, but the ones who do say rhGH does not raise Test, but, instead, directly replaces the body's own – what else? – growth hormone production. It cuts off the body's own production, so It does not make sense to say it heightens hormonal production.

    When I was off-cycle and not on TRT (a while ago), I'd continue to run good doses of GH, but my vigour or libido did not seem to respond (unless I cheated with with proviron). Some claim a "well-being" effect from GH alone, but I never experienced that either.

    Good stuff, unless you have latent cancer cells!

    Solo
     
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    Michael Scally MD

    Michael Scally MD Doctor of Medicine

    IF it does, marginal at best.

    Balducci R, Toscano V, Mangiantini A, Bianchi P, Guglielmi R, Boscherini B. The effect of growth hormone administration on testicular response during gonadotropin therapy in subjects with combined gonadotropin and growth hormone deficiencies. Acta Endocrinologica 1993;128(1):19-23. The effect of growth hormone administration on testicular response during gonadotropin therapy in subjects with combined gonadotropin and growth hormone deficiencies

    To evaluate the effect of growth hormone on testicular response to human chorionic gonadotropins (hcg) in vivo in humans, we selected patients with combined deficits of GH and gonadotropins who were in substitution treatment with both GH (from the time of diagnosis) and gonadotropins (from the time of induction of puberty). Testicular response to gonadotropin therapy was then evaluated during and six months after the cessation of GH treatment. Blood samples were collected before and 2, 4 and 6 days after hCG administration. hCG responses were calculated and expressed as the areas under the response curve. We studied four hypogonadotropic patients (aged 18–19 years) with associated GH deficiency. Their gonadotropin treatment consisted of hCG 1500IU every six days, and FSH 75 IU every three days. The GH therapy replacement consisted of 4 IU thrice weekly. testosterone, androstenedione, 17?-hydroxyprogesterone and estradiol were measured. In all subjects the testosterone area during GH treatment was significantly higher compared to the testosterone area obtained without GH administration (2993±1091 vs 2310±751; M±SD; p<0.04). The androstenedione area followed a similar pattern (708±377 vs 402±248; M±SD; p<0.05). The 17?-hydroxyprogesterone area, on the contrary, was significantly higher during GH withdrawal (542±307 vs 235±190; M±SD; p<0.05). As far as the estradiol area is concerned, no significant differences were found (22860±10082 vs 25697±13640; M±SD). In conclusion, GH administration seems to improve testosterone production induced by human chorionic gonadotropins. The finding of the inverse response pattern of 17?-hydroxyprogesterone with respect to testosterone led us to suppose that the increased testosterone area during GH treatment may be due to an increased activity of C17,20-lyase enzyme.


    Carani C, Granata AR, De Rosa M, et al. The effect of chronic treatment with GH on gonadal function in men with isolated GH deficiency. Eur J Endocrinol 1999;140(3):224-30. The effect of chronic treatment with GH on gonadal function in men with isolated GH deficiency

    Eleven adult males, previously submitted to neurosurgery because of a pituitary lesion (three with craniopharyngioma, three with clinically non-functioning adenoma and five with macroprolactinoma) were treated with recombinant GH for 12 months after the diagnosis of GH deficiency was made. Circulating FSH, LH, prolactin, testosterone, 17 beta-estradiol (E2), dehyroepiandrosterone (DHEA-S), androstenedione. 17-OH-progesterone (17OHP), IFG-I, and steroid hormone-binding protein (SHBG) levels were assayed before and after CG test at study entry and 6 and 12 months after GH treatment.

    A significant increase in plasma IGF-I levels was obtained after 6 and 12 months of GH treatment. In addition, CG-stimulated, but not baseline, testosterone levels showed a significant increase after 6 and 12 months of GH treatment when compared with study entry (9.6 +/- 0.5 and 9.9 +/- 0.5 vs 7.9 +/- 0.5 ng/ml; P < 0.05). Baseline, but not CG-stimulated, serum 17OHP levels were significantly increased only after 12 months of GH treatment (1.7 +/- 0.1 vs 1.4 +/- 0.1 ng/ml; P < 0.05). No significant difference was found as far as both basal and CG-stimulated E2, androstenedione, DHEA-S and SHBG were concerned. With regards to the semen analysis, only seminal plasma volume was significantly increased after 12 months of GH treatment (2.9 +/- 0.3 vs 1.7 +/- 0.3 ml; P < 0.05). No significant change in sperm count, motility and abnormal forms was observed.

    These data show that GH treatment displays a clear-cut effect upon Leydig cell function and increases the production of seminal plasma volume in fertile adult males with isolated GH deficiency.
     
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2013
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    Gunrunner

    Gunrunner Active Member

    Thanks for all the input. Based on the studies shown by Dr Scally it appears that using HGH could have a small effect on testosterone. So here are some labs I had done that seem to show this. I just wanted more inforamtion to have an idea of why I was getting these results before showing them.

    GHtest.JPG
     
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    cobra500

    cobra500 Active Member

    Nice explaination Gun!
     
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    niaditmas

    niaditmas Junior Member

    what did you ask your doctor for these test?
     
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    Gunrunner

    Gunrunner Active Member

    I got labs done on my own dime through PirvateMDlabs.com
     
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    niaditmas

    niaditmas Junior Member

    Was it expensive? The tests
     
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    Gunrunner

    Gunrunner Active Member

    What do you want to get tested for? testosterone isn't expensive, GH and IGF prices starts to go up. I cant remember the cost but you can check on privateMDlabs.com The Hormone Panels for Females is the cheapest for Test, LH, FSH and Estradiol.
     
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    weekend

    weekend Junior Member

    i would be inclined to say that HGH raises testosterone levels marginally by improving overall health and quality of rest/recovery.
     
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    johnnyBALLZ

    johnnyBALLZ Awesome Member


    GH serum is like $40 after the 15% discount code..
     
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    Gunrunner

    Gunrunner Active Member

    I couldn't remember the cost off the top of my head. I know I did the GH and IGF both before and after the HGH supplementaion. The results show the supplemental HGH was G2G and I had a raise in TT also.
     
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    Oregongearhead

    Oregongearhead Awesome Member

    I want to know to opposite , does testosterone injections raise HGH levels ?
     
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    Gunrunner

    Gunrunner Active Member

    From my previous studies I found that it may raise it a very small amount, but nothing compared to HGH supplementation. A $40 test will show if it does or not.
     
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    niaditmas

    niaditmas Junior Member

    So are you saying to use the female ones??
     
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    Gunrunner

    Gunrunner Active Member

    The "Hormone Panel For Females" is the name of the test but you have to specifiy your sex when you order it and as a male it will show the male range. This is just the cheapest way to test for testosterone, LH, FSH and Estradiol.
     

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