Dr Crisler associated with Sweat Lodge tragedy

Discussion in 'Men's Health Forum' started by cvictorg, Jan 7, 2010.

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    cvictorg

    cvictorg Active Member

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    zkt

    zkt Member

    They love to find someone or something to blame. :p
    Its so much easier than understanding.:(
     
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    Bigkarch

    Bigkarch Member

    my damn windows explorer wont open it up...so are you saying dr. jon crisler (swale) was involved
     
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    cvictorg

    cvictorg Active Member

    James Ray was a patient of Dr Crilser - he was prescribed Test Cyp, hcg, HGH, arimidex and finasteride by the doctor

    Sedona Sweat Lodge Tragedy: Search Warrants Served - Prescott eNews

    It is peculiar why a man of Ray's means living in Carlsbad, CA, would be prescribed drugs by an internet physician in Michigan rather than seeing a board-certified endocrinologist or urologist at one of the outstanding medical centers in southern California.or going to an anti-aging clinic in California.

    Nevertheless, Dr. Crisler appears to have done nothing illegal in prescribing this regimen to Mr. Ray. Physicians in the United States, whether they are MDs or DOs, are granted the latitude to prescribe any FDA-approved medicine for any indication they see fit. While it is illegal for drug companies themselves to promote "off-label" uses of drugs (i.e., indications for which the company has not received explicit FDA approval), a physician can legally prescribe a breast cancer drug to a man wishing to build lean muscle mass.
     
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    Millard Baker

    Millard Baker Member

    The media is trying to demonize anabolic steroids and the physicians that prescribe them yet again. It seems they want to link steroid use with the alternative liftestyle of a "new age guru" whose practices resulted in a tragedy as if a steroids/HGH/arimidex/hcg/finasteride protocol was partly to blame. Dr. Crisler just happened to be the doctor that treated the "new age guru".
     
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    hardasnails1973

    hardasnails1973 Active Member

    This guy is a fucking moron and half ...
     
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    Bigkarch

    Bigkarch Member

    yeah thats what I thought
     
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    smitty4

    smitty4 Junior Member

    AMEN! He is so off base on what he has to say that unfortunately I do not have the time to point all of them out.
     
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    Jeton

    Jeton Active Member

    the writer has his own agenda, and he makes subjective assertions without bothering to even offer a rationale, let alone a citation or footnote. he's correct that others will try to use this incident to restrict patient freedoms, but he appears to be in that camp himself.

    James Arthur Ray may himself try to blame Dr Crisler, time will tell what Ray's attorneys have decided.
     
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    hardasnails1973

    hardasnails1973 Active Member

    Serves the idiot fucken right to get sick
    Running around in the fucken desert searching for spiritual bliss dehydrated.. Sounds like a winner to me LOL

    He must have been having a bad acid trip..
    I love to be fly on wall when he went to the dr to explain this one HAHAA
     
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    cvictorg

    cvictorg Active Member


    Ask him a aquestion - abelpharmboy (at) gmail (dot) com.

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    Jeton

    Jeton Active Member

    :confused:what did u have in mind to ask him? i already commented on his blog at that link...
     
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    hardasnails1973

    hardasnails1973 Active Member

    I already commented on his shit ass blog LOL
    SOunds to me someone just is crying out for attention..
     
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    pmgamer18

    pmgamer18 Junior Member

    Dr. John is the most anti-steroid Dr. in the country. He is not a Internet Doctor -people have to either and see him, or have their local doctors ask him to consult.

    I am sorry but your full of it for saying this I don't like to get in to crap about stuff like this but tell it like it is.
     
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2010
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    Crazy Crew

    Crazy Crew Member

    Agreed..... To say that Dr Crisler was "associated with Sweat Lodge tragedy" is ludicrous to infer just because he had a patient there. I guess if one of them were diabetic their doctor would be associated too. If there were Coca Cola cans lying around then I guess Coca Cola was associated .
     
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    Millard Baker

    Millard Baker Member

    There is so much ignorance in the media. They make no distinction between doctors that prescribe TRT to patients in their offices and doctors that sell prescriptions for steroids to bodybuilders over the internet without a legitimate face-to-face doctor-patient relationship. Everyone here knows there is a big difference.
     
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    pmgamer18

    pmgamer18 Junior Member

    Yes and because of this Dr.'s don't want to treat men that are sick with low testosterone they don't want the lable.
     
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    Millard Baker

    Millard Baker Member

    It always doesn't help that the DEA classifies testosterone (and other AAS) as a controlled substance.

    The media and the DEA should not dictate or influence how medicine is practiced.
     
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    Jeton

    Jeton Active Member

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