I am just going to state that I am a new member here at MESO except I have been following this forum, reading and researching for over a year now. I will state a little bit of background. I started lifting at 19 years old and have never had more than a few months off. My first year I went from 150lbs to 215lbs but was very puffy. After 3 years of lifting I started to see that my strength was naturally good but my genetic potential for bodybuilding didn't seem to be my field. I started powerlifting at the age of 22 and got deeply into it. I am now 24 and have been through a list of injuries since the beginning of my lifting that could probably extend to a page long for simple tears and strains. I went through long bouts of months long pain in my wrist, elbows, shoulders, and lower back; however, never did I have a problem with my knees. This last year I have had very stagnated gains no matter how many calories I put into my body and made the decision to get into SARMS which I know many claim to be a waste of money and don't work. I will tell you that I made great gains off of them. On LGD 4033, S4, and MK677, I had gone from 212lb to 235lb of bodyweight at roughly 15% body fat @ 5' 10''. I added 15lbs to my deadlift, 10lbs to my squat, and 30lbs to my competition bench. my totals were 545/385/615 or 1545 @ 242 (could of dropped water to get 220 but it was unsanctioned so who cares). Here is the thing about this total and my problems. I had pre-injured myself before the comp 2 weeks prior for bench. I slightly tore my pec when using sling-shot to bench 505 for 1. I otherwise would of broke well over 385. Along with that, a month prior to comp I injured both patella tendons when doing push presses (my theory is that S4 makes the joints like dry brittle) because I didn't warm up my knees before throwing 255 around (stupid, letting the drugs get to my head and just being young and dumb ig -_-). I was easily squatting 555 for 2 before the knee injury thing, but I kept training hard and wrapping them extra tight. After the comp, I came right off the sarms and felt okay and took 3 weeks off from lifting to recover. Long story short, 8 months later my knees still bother me, everything else feels awesome and good to go. The pain in my knees went away for a long time, but as soon as the intensity picked up after a month of training, they have begun bothering me again and I am suspecting either tendonosis or tendonitis. Nonetheless, it's been 8 months and I'm sick of it. Mk677 increases natural growth hormone pulses, which I can tell works because when I get on it my skin quality looks amazing, my sleep quality improves greatly, I wake up and my hands feel tingly and puffy. But my knees are still like brittle bitches and I'm sick of it. I am taking TRIFLEX from GNC, Cissus Quandrangulus 2g a day, Collagen, Vitamin C 5g a day, and other various supplements like fish oil, and Animal Pak. I don't calorie count but I eat every 3 hours and I stay away from all bullshit. I measure my meat out to 8oz and aim for clean carbs and green vegetables. Now, all this being said, I started a SARM cycle again still holding my hopes up that my knees will eventually pull through ontop of getting some great gains. I'm not satisfied in either department, so I'm ready to just throw in my natty card so to speak. Here is what my first cycle will look like. Pharmacom Weeks 1-14 Test E. 500mg a week/250mg Monday, and Friday Weeks 1-12 Deca 250mg a week/125mg Monday, and Friday (For the joint protection and mixed reading about healing potential) Weeks 1-4 Dbol 30/30/40/50 (Just a kickstart and keep in mind I'm going for strength/joint support) pct/anti E Valkyrie Weeks 1-14 Armidex .25 EOD hcg 500 a week/250 Monday, and Friday Weeks 16-20 clomid 100/50/40/40 nolva 40/40/20/20 Weeks 21-22 DAA Weeks 16+ Tribulus 2G ED So, any experienced advice would be nice and respected. I am a newb here and will be doing my best not to piss anyone off. I know there is a lot of hostility around to say the least but I think its funny to read people basically chasing off shills. I know this is not a place that people will spoon feed me help either, but I am trying to stay humble here as I am new.