Janz or Hans, would you please describe in simple terms what value these labs have for individual users and what services the labs offer. For instance, does the lab work directly with clients or must we go thru one of their providers? Many on this forum know about and use the labs that Dr. John, for instance, would use for hormonal assessment. Genova labs or combination of assays drill down much further. What are the costs? Feel free to bring in reps from the company as discussants. Actually, if you know them, invite them. Genova labs keep coming up and I'd just like to bring the topics or information front and center for the forum. There are perhaps other labs doing the same and I don't want to appear that I am favoring anyone. So this is not a personal endorsement. You guys however are free to endorse.