HGH Bloat

CTipp22

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I have been using a generic grey top and IGF at 3 IU came back at 405. I bumped up to 4 IU and at both doses I get facial bloat. What can I do to reduce this? Is there a supplement or am I eating too many carbs at like 300-400grams. Lemme know

Thanks!
 

Marcus

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I'm taking the same grey tops (I assume) at 5iu per day, from platinum direct, and throw some dandelion root into my daily amino drink. I went a few days without it, and had noticeable difference in bloat, specifically my face. Don't get it too much elsewhere.
 

CTipp22

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I'm taking the same grey tops (I assume) at 5iu per day, from platinum direct, and throw some dandelion root into my daily amino drink. I went a few days without it, and had noticeable difference in bloat, specifically my face. Don't get it too much elsewhere.
lol I was buying dandelion root when you sent this. I actually am finishing up some plain greys not from PD that tested super well.
 

CTipp22

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I also have a bunch of Livewell Pharmacy HGH vials that test 16.1 gh serum but they SUPPOSED to be legit.. ever hear of em? got them through a guy who supplies bodybuilders.
 

Evom1

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I also have a bunch of Livewell Pharmacy HGH vials that test 16.1 gh serum but they SUPPOSED to be legit.. ever hear of em? got them through a guy who supplies bodybuilders.
Mundo got caught selling crap gh and underdosed gear selectively. Most guys dropped him
 

Dr JIM

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I have been using a generic grey top and IGF at 3 IU came back at 405. I bumped up to 4 IU and at both doses I get facial bloat. What can I do to reduce this? Is there a supplement or am I eating too many carbs at like 300-400grams. Lemme know

Thanks!

Let see at 3 IU everything seemed GTG, but accepting the adage more is better you increased the dosage to 4IU and developed SIDE EFFECTS.

I mean do you really need someone to explain how to "reduce this" !
 

CTipp22

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Let see at 3 IU everything seemed GTG, but accepting the adage more is better you increased the dosage to 4IU and developed SIDE EFFECTS.

I mean do you really need someone to explain how to "reduce this" !
NO I don't need any explanations thanks.
 

Dr JIM

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NO I don't need any explanations thanks.

Seriously fella whats the objective an IGF of 500, 600, 700 or awaiting the developments of MORE adverse effects.

But hey at least you obtained a IGF level, which is more useful when compared to a known baseline.

You need to spend some time reviewing the effects of GH supplementation and decide what OBJECTIVE "benefits" are reasonably achievable FOR YOU.

Finally if you would like to ascertain whether more is better for you, try increasing the dose in an incremental fashion, such as 1/4th IU per week, as doing so tends to diminish adverse effects based on clinical trials.
 

Dr JIM

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Oh come on, I'm sure he'd love to give you the most polite and respectful explanation possible without any sarcasm or condescension whatsoever

If PED users would spend more time reviewing known data on the substances being used then perhaps they would "learn" beforehand what to do and not to do.

Noooooo God forbid that requires foresight, planning and just a little common sense and the LACK of all the above is the origin of Jims sarcasm.

Pity I suppose society has "dumbed down" some of you fellas to the point where you no longer believe you can think for yourselves.
 
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CTipp22

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Seriously fella whats the objective an IGF of 500, 600, 700 or awaiting the developments of MORE adverse effects.

But hey at least you obtained a IGF level, which is more useful when compared to a known baseline.

You need to spend some time reviewing the effects of GH supplementation and decide what OBJECTIVE "benefits" are reasonably achievable FOR YOU.

Finally if you would like to ascertain whether more is better for you, try increasing the dose in an incremental fashion, such as 1/4th IU per week, as doing so tends to diminish adverse effects based on clinical trials.
So my goal I suppose is to gain muscle reduce fat and heal my joints quickly as well as skin and hair benefits. Generally I've taken 4IU doses but 3 "feels better" I also don't know what igf I should be aiming for but I know above 400 is good.
 

CTipp22

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If PED users would spend more time reviewing known data on the substances being used then perhaps they would "learn" beforehand what to do and not to do.

Noooooo God forbid that requires foresight, planning and just a little common sense and the LACK of all the above is the origin of Jims sarcasm.

Pity I suppose society has "dumbed down" some of you fellas to the point where you no longer believe you can think for yourselves.
Also I do appreciate the generic assays you dudes posted up they are helpful.
 

Dr JIM

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So my goal I suppose is to;
A) gain muscle
B) reduce fat
C) heal my joints
D) skin and hair benefits

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Fella once agin you NEED to review the established benefits of GH bc only ONE of your objectives is clearly evidence based while the remainder are reminiscent of GH website sales adds.

Any idea which one is reasonably well supported in the scientific literature?
 
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CTipp22

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Fella once agin you NEED to review the established benefits of GH BC only ONE of your objectives is clearly evidence based, while the remainder are typical of GH website adds.

Any idea which one is WELL supported in the scientific literature?
Isn't fat loss pretty established as well as causing more cellular activity causing muscular growth? I don't need help knowing what it does it's more the dosage to get what I want. Whenever I take gh I feel I heal super fast so that's pretty established as well. My question is what igf is healthy and beneficial for performanc
Fella once agin you NEED to review the established benefits of GH BC only ONE of your objectives is clearly evidence based, while the remainder are reminiscent of GH website sales adds.

Any idea which one is WELL supported in the scientific literature?

well I know It makes you heal faster and drs prescribe it for severe burns to help aid healing as well as children with growth issues.
 

CTipp22

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Isn't fat loss pretty established as well as causing more cellular activity causing muscular growth? I don't need help knowing what it does it's more the dosage to get what I want. Whenever I take gh I feel I heal super fast so that's pretty established as well. My question is what igf is healthy and beneficial for performanc


well I know It makes you heal faster and drs prescribe it for severe burns to help aid healing as well as children with growth issues.
Also muscle waisting from AIDS
 
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