HGH in endurance sports

vulpes

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The scientific data on HGH in endurance sports shows no clear benefit to endurance and suggests it may actually negatively impact VO2 max. However Cyclists keep getting busted for it and rowers were big into it before testing improved. These athletes have good doctors, so there must be benefits to be had when it is correctly used. How do you guys think HGH should best be used by the endurance athlete? Doses and timings?

My personal aims with HGH (apart from enjoying increased recovery) are to gradually improve the strength of connective tissue, allowing me to get stronger muscles safely, so I can then go faster later down the line. Its quite long term and I could take a hit to VO2 max for a few months if it paved the way for me to safely get stronger to then go faster. I would appreciate advice with dose and timings.

HGH appears to benefit anaerobic exercise capacity by increasing the ability to make ATP the anaerobic route -so you get more lactate as a by product, which may be what hits the VO2 max. (Certainly I watched an athlete I coach become awesome at 400's and 800's on MK677 but crap at endurance because he just "drowned in lactate after about 4 800's". Endurance returned when MK 677 was stopped, while some long sprint improvement was retained.) Beating up your connective tissue by sprinting is also going to be really good for stimulating it being built back better, so HGH after doing short hard intervals seems a possible good plan and HGH being the sprinter's friend is well documented scientifically.

However, we already get a good hit of endogenous HGH following sprints (very well documented scientifically). Do we just go for a bigger hit with exogenous? Or can we use exogenous at other times that will still benefit tendon repair while enjoying what we already get for free after sprints? One could for example say "we don't get a good hit of endogenous following low aerobic training, so we could use it then? We could just take it before bed but then that is a time when we are soon to be getting a big natural hit. When would you recommend and of course how much would you personally recommend? I was thinking start 1 iu, move up to 2 if 2 showed increased benefit but I am interested in people's ideas.

I would be grateful of people's considered opinions.

Thanks.
 
The scientific data on HGH in endurance sports shows no clear benefit to endurance and suggests it may actually negatively impact VO2 max. However Cyclists keep getting busted for it and rowers were big into it before testing improved. These athletes have good doctors, so there must be benefits to be had when it is correctly used. How do you guys think HGH should best be used by the endurance athlete? Doses and timings?

My personal aims with HGH (apart from enjoying increased recovery) are to gradually improve the strength of connective tissue, allowing me to get stronger muscles safely, so I can then go faster later down the line. Its quite long term and I could take a hit to VO2 max for a few months if it paved the way for me to safely get stronger to then go faster. I would appreciate advice with dose and timings.

HGH appears to benefit anaerobic exercise capacity by increasing the ability to make ATP the anaerobic route -so you get more lactate as a by product, which may be what hits the VO2 max. (Certainly I watched an athlete I coach become awesome at 400's and 800's on MK677 but crap at endurance because he just "drowned in lactate after about 4 800's". Endurance returned when MK 677 was stopped, while some long sprint improvement was retained.) Beating up your connective tissue by sprinting is also going to be really good for stimulating it being built back better, so HGH after doing short hard intervals seems a possible good plan and HGH being the sprinter's friend is well documented scientifically.

However, we already get a good hit of endogenous HGH following sprints (very well documented scientifically). Do we just go for a bigger hit with exogenous? Or can we use exogenous at other times that will still benefit tendon repair while enjoying what we already get for free after sprints? One could for example say "we don't get a good hit of endogenous following low aerobic training, so we could use it then? We could just take it before bed but then that is a time when we are soon to be getting a big natural hit. When would you recommend and of course how much would you personally recommend? I was thinking start 1 iu, move up to 2 if 2 showed increased benefit but I am interested in people's ideas.

I would be grateful of people's considered opinions.

Thanks.
1: if you start taking hgh it will shut down your natural production.
2. You need to find out your natural level and if it’s low you can add GH to get to the top of a natural range. Any more than that and it’ll eventually have a negative effect.
3. 50-70% of GH is produced during the first few hours of sleep so if replacing natural production you should aim for 50-70% at bedtime and the rest post workout
4. GH like most peds are used for recovery not necessarily performance
5. If you can’t recover you can’t perform
All the best.
 
Also, if you truly want to perform your best with or without GH you need to train/practice as much as possible without overtraining(critical) sleep as much as possible min 10hours and eat as much as possible.
GL
 
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