How many calories burned lifting vs cardio

Discussion in 'Training Forum' started by bambam333, Oct 14, 2019.

  1. bambam333

    bambam333 Member

    just stumbled across this video and if it’s true I didn’t think so many less calories were burned lifting.
     
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  2. johntt44

    johntt44 Member

    At my weight 240lbs. 90min vigorous weight training =981 calories. Not bad. It was the WebMD calculator.
     
  3. bambam333

    bambam333 Member

    That’s what I always thought it to be around and he’s claiming that mile walks will burn more than what our average weight training workout does. Mines similar to yours. I just can’t see the workouts I do would only burn a hundred calories or whatever he says
     
  4. Mac11wildcat

    Mac11wildcat Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

    Weight training will use significantly less than focused cardio. Not as low as 100 though. That seems way too small.

    For most people a 60m workout only has ~20m of training in it.
     
  5. johntt44

    johntt44 Member

    It might be accurate. Vigorous bike riding for 90min at my weight 1635cals?
     
  6. Mac11wildcat

    Mac11wildcat Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

    Are you really “vigorously weight training?” Typically that’s a WOD/Xfit style workout.
     
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  7. bambam333

    bambam333 Member

    Mac On average how many cals you think we burn for say a 60-90 min weight session with no longer than a 30 seconds a minute break between sets
     
  8. Mac11wildcat

    Mac11wildcat Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

    My guess, if you train like a bodybuilder, is that in a 60-90m workout, 1/3rd is that is activity (IE not rest or changing exercises). Caloric expenditure would obviously be highest on a harder day like legs.

    I’d bet you don’t top 300 in a workout. However, weight training raises your TDEE (for roughly 24hrs I think). So the cals burned intraworkout aren’t the end of the equation.
     
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  9. johntt44

    johntt44 Member

    Yeah, you're right. It actually says weight training and conditioning.
     
  10. LeoTC

    LeoTC Member

    Yep.

    Huge proponent of weight training for weight loss when you have a lot to lose. More for the discipline and muscle retention benefits.

    I get lean as fuck come summer and the long walks though.
     
  11. Spokeonawheel

    Spokeonawheel Member

    I watched that video as well. Found it extremely interesting. His explanation of why so few calories were burned during weightlifting seemed to make sense however I'm not a calory doctor like greg doucette.

    More muscle = more calory burning potential as the true benefit of weight training in that regard was enlightening.

    Also my GF refers to him as steroid Gilbert Godfried because of his voice. He is generally a good watch tho.
     
  12. Sparkyp

    Sparkyp Member

    I just watched this video. If it’s true I couldn’t believe it. I thought for sure I was burning like 500 calories weight training. lol.
     
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  13. mp46

    mp46 Member

    Even walking is a constant energy expenditure, weights you’re probably working 15-20 seconds in every minute. Walking seems trivial but you’re constantly moving body weight nonstop. Go walk up some stairs, carry a 45lb weight around, you’ll see how fast you notice the weight. Same as when you gain or lose a bunch of weight in a short time, you notice the effects more.
     
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  14. Human_backhoe

    Human_backhoe Member

    Do you think the constant protein synthesis (especially on cycle) adds to TDEE? It is a energy conversion, and does follow the laws of thermodynamics?
     
  15. Mac11wildcat

    Mac11wildcat Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

    Everything follows thermo; the laws aren’t breakable, HOWEVER hormone activity in your body can preferentially pick how certain inputs are use. Being on cycle absolutely ups TDEE as muscle protein synthesis skyrockets. Just by numbers, not at all unrealistic to see 12–15lbs of muscle gain in 12-16 weeks. I just recently did 20 (last year). Compare that to natty; lucky if they get 5-7lbs a year under IDEAL circumstances.

    muscle and fat are simply calories. If we can build more muscle than a natty, our TDEE had to have gone up; via MPS and the fact that as we grow our caloric needs inherently grow too.
     
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  16. Human_backhoe

    Human_backhoe Member

    Thank you. I am very slowly trying to dial in my diet as I am 3 weeks into my first cycle now. So many things to dial in all at once haha!
     
  17. Test_Subject

    Test_Subject Member

    It really depends on what your "weight training" looks like.

    If you're doing WOD type stuff with relatively light weights but next to no breaks between sets, sure, you'll burn a lot of calories. There's a reason (also Anavar) that crossfitters are so cut.

    Doing deadlifts for sets of three with a four minute rest isn't going to burn very many calories, comparatively.
     
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  18. bambam333

    bambam333 Member

    Mine averages about an hour or so with mostly 30 second breaks in between sets sometimes a minute if needed. That’s why this really made me wonder what I actually burn
     
  19. Rippidy Dippidy

    Rippidy Dippidy Junior Member

    Can’t take Greg doucette too seriously though. I’ve been following the guy for 2 years now, seen that video when it came out. There are plenty of things he has said that is just nonsense over YouTube. He is full of a lot of solid advice though.
     
  20. NovaFlex

    NovaFlex Member

    The thing I don’t think is mentioned, like Mac said, is the TDEE and the fact that larger muscles burn more cals. In the long run, if you were forced to pick only one, would you want to be “cardio fit” or “weight training fit”?