How many members here use TOR

Discussion in 'Security, Privacy & Anonymity' started by Glocker, Jan 20, 2019.

  1. Glocker

    Glocker Member

    Title - For visiting meso and other aas - related websites? I was wondering if most simply stick with a vpn or layer it with TOR for extra anonymity?
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  2. Vipera1

    Vipera1 Member

    No need for normal surfing, not for me anyway.

    For other purposes, like ordering or other interesting activities it's advisable to use tor, or VPN.
  3. MindlessWork

    MindlessWork Member Supporter

    Tor is a bit of overkill for most things but will use it when ordering gear. Even browsing in Starbucks a VPN is basically all I need.

    Of course if you really are into dodgy stuff then Tor is a must.
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  4. master.on

    master.on Member

    I wonder if TOR actually draws more unwanted attention.
    Surfing steroid boards doesn't necessarily get attention by itself as gear is legal in some countries.
  5. Dax

    Dax Member

    Wasn't tor developed by the U.S Navy?
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  6. Glocker

    Glocker Member

    Part of the MIL yes thats why there is some skepticism around it.
  7. Glocker

    Glocker Member

    Theory is you should never run TOR without first running VPN since your ISP sees the TOR and logs it and the nsa logs you as a TOR user which in the eyes of the US gov home of the free makes you a de'facto criminal since your desire for anonymity means you are up to no good. Running VPN before TOR masks your TOR usage from ISP as far as i know.

    Reason for my original question is i wonder if certain governments such as the US log IP addresses that originate in the US to be used at a later time.
  8. Glocker

    Glocker Member

    Some believe there might be a back door built into it but as far as i know none has even been discovered.
  9. adnansanat

    adnansanat Member

    Firefox with some add ons works great enough for most of people. For reaching DNM and buy/sell some shits, VPN + Tor.
  10. VPN, TOR, GPG suite...keep a clean house.

    I would suggest never compromising your anonymity just bc you think(know) LE won't come after a suspected abuser for a few bottles of test. Extortion, reverse scamming, or worse...there are things that go bump in the night when you delve into any black market.
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  11. balco

    balco Member

    It open-source so there is zero skepticism surrounding tor.
  12. Glocker

    Glocker Member

    Zero skepticism surrounding tor - 0% chance that the u.s. gov created unrecognizable malicious code when they created the software and 0% chance the u.s. govs nearly 100% funding of the tor project today thru various back-door entities has created any skepticism at all.

    You should use your time educating yourself instead of meandering around meso posting useless dribble. Not just this thread but almost every post you make you exercise your right to be the brainless lazy useless part of that which is destroying our hope for a better tomorrow. There is something not right with you.
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  13. balco

    balco Member

    Haha "unrecognizable malicious code"Jesus, give me a fucking break, there is no such thing. Even if that was possible the development team would figure anything like that out.
  14. Burrr

    Burrr Member Supporter

    Most of what I've seen lately suggest that it is counterproductive to run VPN along with tor. And that if you wanted to bump up security to the next level you do your browsing while using tails combined with tor
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  15. mr_meanor

    mr_meanor Member

    I don't see how it could be counterproductive? Unnecessary maybe...
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  16. Glocker

    Glocker Member

    At the very least a vpn hides your use of TOR from your ISP since the ISP can see when you are using TOR. Does the ISP provide a list of its customers who use TOR to the gov to be put on a list? Depends on whom you ask. Given the choice I would rather have my name on a list of vpn users rather than a list of TOR users.
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  17. MindlessWork

    MindlessWork Member Supporter

    I suspect Comcast (and most major ISP's) does monitor and log Tor usage (and provide that info to LE) so VPN is a must.
  18. Genotec

    Genotec Junior Member

    I use VPN all the time but i am really intrested in your opinion if i should use tor with it or not?
    There i a lot of contradicting info around so i an not usre if VPN+ toor is g2g or not?
  19. Katona

    Katona Junior Member

    Running a VPN should be mandatory for everybody who is into steroids and so on. If your VPN provider is a good one, like for example perfect-privacy, they keep no logs on the servers and so its not easy for cops to see what you do. But in case LE would compare the amount of incoming and outgoing dataflow of the VPN server you are connected with, it is good to "cascade" a second VPN. If you then use for example TOR as socks5 in your browser additionally, it will definitely not harm you.
  20. Artifex

    Artifex Member

    I use VPN + Tor on my laptop and phone ... just want privacy