Well, just have a few questions. I see there are several doctors here... not looking for medical advice per say, but maybe a point in the right direction. I've been following this forum for quite some time without really joining in, but recently took the plunge. I guess part of the reason I started following this forum was due to the fact that I am definitely starting to feel the effects of my age. So I will give a little history of myself. I have never used any enhancement medication with the exception of supplements (which I am sure most do not work, and others tend to be more dangerous than their "controlled" counterparts.) My workouts have always been natural, even pre workout shakes give me the jitters. I prefer coffee and part of an aspirin. The only thing I use now is a daily vitamin, ISOPURE protein shake,and fish oil. I am 45 years old and lately (over the past year and a half) started gaining considerable weight, about 30lbs. I also noticed that my energy levels were in the dumps. My temperament and disposition changed a bit too. I seem to be more irritable and irritated, which is not really good since I have two sweet little girls and come across as a grumpy old bear with them sometimes. (I'm glad they are forgiving). Anyway, I was having other unrelated issues and kept going to see my doctor. Those issues include a sore left shoulder joint, which they gave me a cortisone shot and sent me on my way and other "age" related issues. I remember giving my doctor a whole slew of symptoms and recently got a huge blood panel done. My symptoms were severe fatigue and lethargy, my strength seems to have diminished, along with my motivation. My sex drive has not diminished however, but I notice that the refractory period is MUCH longer. Sometimes my erections can be "soft" as if I were not completely into it when mentally I am all there. So in my inquiries, one google led to another, and here I am. I have been working out and playing sports for a good portion of my life. Sometimes, due to my work schedule, (i am in construction) I have to take a long hiatus from working out and being physically active. You would think working in construction that you remain physically active, but that is not always the case. Anyway, I will get more to the point. On my last visit to my doctor, because of all the complaints I had, I finally got a blood panel done. It had everything from my test and free test levels, my b12, cholesterol, and more. I think it totaled like 15 different test done. So the results were interesting. I had a high ferritin reading, it was 500+ (normal is like 40-300). I was sent to a hematologist and they ran another test which came up to be like 660 ferritin level. I have noticed my joints are a bit more sore lately. I also have really bad fatigue, I nap like an 80 year old man. Also, I read that high ferritin can cause your testosterone levels to diminish too, but is not always the case. I am still on track to diagnosing this issue. I have an MRI scheduled for Monday. My testosterone level was considered "normal", but I feel is not. The results were 364. The "normal" range was between 348-1197 according to the lab. When I questioned my doctor about this I was told that my testosterone was normal and therefore required no action on their part. Also my cholesterol was a bit high too LDL 143, HDL 36, VLDL 24... not great, but not alarming. I was doing a bunch of research and the conclusion I have come to is that I need to be in the 500+ test range, preferably higher but no less than. Testosterone is also a natural way to bring down cholesterol levels since it also helps the body to metabolize it and sends the LDL to your liver to be processed out. I decided that maybe I need to see a doctor that will work with me on this testosterone issue. I am going to schedule an appointment this week to see one. I discussed and expressed my concern for TRT, as I believe my body is still producing it. I am afraid of TRT shutting my body down and saw that there are some very effective ways of getting my body to produce more T by taking hcg and or clomiphene (clomid). These chemicals convince your body it is not producing enough test and ramps up the testes, at least thats the way I get it. I also like the fact that they were interested in checking out my total andro makeup and balancing it all out, like estrogen and dhea too. So I guess my question is what do you guys think of the different T replacement/ enhancement therapies? Do any of you all have experience with TRT or other programs? What level of testosterone is optimal rather than just enough? I am sure as this thread picks up some traction, I may have a few more questions before it is all over. Thanks.