I never knew anything about ECA and how effective it was until a month ago. I’ve always been a grumpy ass dieter, caving to carb cravings and never leaning out in the process. I’m rolling EC 2-3 times daily and I’ve never taken anything so mild that absolutely curb stomps hunger and cravings without geeking you out...dam it’s great to learn something new even though it isn’t, lol. I’ve always used OTC herbals and they suck or fuck up your stomach. EC is money.