Looking for some help on blood tests

Discussion in 'Steroid Forum' started by Bryan77, Jul 23, 2019.

  1. Bryan77

    Bryan77 Junior Member

    Hello all,
    I started my first cycle. testosterone only.
    Bio TS400
    Testosterone Decanoate 200mg
    Testosterone Isocaproate 30mg
    Testosterone Phenylpropionate 40mg
    Testosterone Propionate 30mg
    Testosterone Cypionate 50mg
    Testosterone Enanthate 50mg
    First pin was 1cc on 07/08 in right thigh.
    Second pin 1cc on 07/14 in left thigh.
    On 07/15 I started feeling like shit. Tightness in chest. Shortness of breath. Fingers tingling sometimes. High/erratic heart beat and blood pressure. So I went to urgent care on 07/16. NP on duty no DR. Basically told me I’m an idiot. Nothing she can do. I told her that I wanted ECG and that came back normal. Then I did bloodwork. Now I know I should of ordered more tests. And I do have cholesterol, which is high. And comprehensive metabolic panel. But everything was well within range
    WHITE BLOOD CELL COUNT

    Your Value

    11.3 Thousand/uL

    Standard Range

    3.8 - 10.8 Thousand/uL

    RED BLOOD CELL COUNT

    Your Value

    4.82 Million/uL

    Standard Range

    4.20 - 5.80 Million/uL

    Hemoglobin

    Your Value

    14.6 g/dL

    Standard Range

    13.2 - 17.1 g/dL

    HEMATOCRIT

    Your Value

    42.8 %

    Standard Range

    38.5 - 50.0 %

    MCV

    Your Value

    88.8 fL

    Standard Range

    80.0 - 100.0 fL

    MCH

    Your Value

    30.4 pg

    Standard Range

    27.0 - 33.0 pg

    MCHC

    Your Value

    34.2 g/dL

    Standard Range

    32.0 - 36.0 g/dL

    RDW

    Your Value

    12.8 %

    Standard Range

    11.0 - 15.0 %

    Platelet Count

    Your Value

    267 Thousand/uL

    Standard Range

    140 - 400 Thousand/uL

    MPV

    Your Value

    7.0 fL

    Standard Range

    7.5 - 12.5 fL

    ABSOLUTE NEUTROPHILS

    Your Value

    8,927 cells/uL

    Standard Range

    1,500 - 7,800 cells/uL

    ABSOLUTE LYMPHOCYTES

    Your Value

    1,232 cells/uL

    Standard Range

    850 - 3,900 cells/uL

    ABSOLUTE MONOCYTES

    Your Value

    972 cells/uL

    Standard Range

    200 - 950 cells/uL

    ABSOLUTE EOSINOPHILS

    Your Value

    113 cells/uL

    Standard Range

    15 - 500 cells/uL

    ABSOLUTE BASOPHILS

    Your Value

    57 cells/uL

    Standard Range

    0 - 200 cells/uL

    NEUTROPHILS

    Your Value

    79.0 %

    Standard Range

    %

    LYMPHOCYTES

    Your Value

    10.9 %

    Standard Range

    %

    MONOCYTES

    Your Value

    8.6 %

    Standard Range

    %

    EOSINOPHILS

    Your Value

    1.0 %

    Standard Range

    %

    BASOPHILS

    Your Value

    0.5 %

    Standard Range

    %

    TESTOSTERONE, TOTAL

    Your Value

    1,744 ng/dL

    Standard Range

    250 - 827 ng/dL

    ESTROGEN,TOTAL,SERUM

    Your Value

    115.0 pg/mL

    Standard Range

    60 - 190 pg/mL
    High WBC, high
    NEUTROPHILS, slightly high
    MONOCYTES and slightly low MPV.
    I didn’t do pre cycle bloodwork. My bad. But I did do a testosterone test on 05/31 and it was only 299. Could it be that testosterone jumped too high too fast to 1744? I still feel like shit. I did take a .25 tab of aramidex on 07/18 then another .25 tab on 07/18 thinking that might help. But it didn’t. Any in site would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance
     
  2. Bryan77

    Bryan77 Junior Member

    I’m 41 and have been treated for high bp for past 5yrs. I take Bystolic. And bp was always right at 120/70
     
  3. 350lift

    350lift Member

    Next time take ONE ESTER of testosterone or you’re never gonna figure out how it effects u with five different friggin esters.

    Atleast if u had test cyp you’d have a grasp on how ur blood pressure and estrogen conversion and kick in time and mental effects reacted.
    But u got 10 different fuckin esters good luck figuring that shit out. It’s ur first cycle I’d buy test cyp immediately and drop that shit
     
  4. 350lift

    350lift Member

    I’m willing to bet ur symptoms may be related to the wild fluctuations of levels due to the 1000s of esters in that mix.

    Secondly if u plan on doing pct at the end of this cycle good luck keeping ur gains. 300 level test? 40? Sounds like it’d be better to just get on trt and drop the cycle. See how the trt is and maybe consider a test only blast down the road

    And don’t use that shit mix for trt
     
    Last edited: Jul 23, 2019
  5. Bryan77

    Bryan77 Junior Member

    Switching to one ester makes sense. But honestly I’m not sure if I should continue. Looking for more info on symptoms. Or at least hoping they’ll go away at some point I’m wondering if it’s bc the decanoate has such a long half life? Thanks for reply
     
  6. jJjburton

    jJjburton Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

    Just stop running stuff and go to the docotor for trt. You obviously did not study anything before you used it. I read for 2 yr and learned about eah compond before I used steroids.
     
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  7. Bryan77

    Bryan77 Junior Member

    Not sure why you’d think I didn’t study about it. You guys act like TRT is an easy thing to get. My PCP is a beta douchebag vegetarian. He knows the numbers. Thinks that’s fine. And how do you go get TRT once you’ve already started taking?
     
  8. If ur using a test mix 400 and u pinned one cc twice that's 800mg of test in ur first week ever. U may be reacting to an Ester or even carrier. I think u started with too much. My first time with test prop I started 300mg a week initially and that raised BP and had my face red. You should have tried .5 a cc of 250 test e or c twice a week for ur first week or two which would be 250mg to see how u react and then double it after 2 weeks. Ull prolly be fine in a week when ur levels come down some. Watch ur bp
     
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  9. 350lift

    350lift Member

    Stop it completely don’t do pct wait three weeks go see new doc. But also idk how long decoanate takes to clear might have to wait a month
     
  10. Bryan77

    Bryan77 Junior Member

    Thank you Airborne. I actually thought pinning another cc at 6 days was conservative. I see people saying you should pin that e3d. But I’m hoping you’re right. Heart rate seems to have stabilized a bit today. And I do feel better today
     
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  11. Bryan77

    Bryan77 Junior Member

    Thanks 350. It appears half life of decanoate is 15 days. So 30 days it should be completely out of system? Also, would my lvls be back to where they were? I guess what I’m asking is the 800mg I took enough to shut down my production? Thanks in advance
     
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  12. No
     
  13. Oh I thought it was like 3.5 days....so maybe was the carrier but most who who dont tolerate carrier get mad pip and swelling.....
     
  14. Bryan77

    Bryan77 Junior Member

    Pip wasn’t too bad in my opinion. Second was slightly worse then first. But what do I know. I’m new at this. But there was no swelling or redness. Just an ache. Definitely bearable
     
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  15. 350lift

    350lift Member

    I’m not being a dick here but asking if ur levels will be back to where they were before u started is lack of research. U took exogenous testosterone ur pituitary won’t stsrt making testosterone again unless u take pct. that will make ur levels go back to what they were. Don’t do this if u want trt. You will feel like dog shit while ur levels drop but it’s the only way. And yeah ur production is screwed. Did u even buy a pct before deciding on this cycle
     
  16. Bryan77

    Bryan77 Junior Member

    No to all of it?
     
  17. Bryan77

    Bryan77 Junior Member

    I don’t take it as you being a dick. I’m not easily offended. And I do understand that taking exogenous test shuts down natural production and that’s the reason for pct. my question is basically how much/long til it shuts down. I haven’t seen anything on people only taking 2 injections of 400mg and stopping. I guess I should of worded it better. My bad. Thank you very much for your help. This is the reason I joined MESO instead of one of the other sites. I like your guys no bullshit knowledgeable responses
     
  18. Bryan77

    Bryan77 Junior Member

    All I have for pct is clomid. I know a lot of people say nolva should be added to that. If not more. But honestly my plan was to run this bottle in 10 weeks. And if I felt good, lower dose and cruise. Like you said 350, test at 299 is shit. And I feel effects of that. Thanks
     
  19. Personally if ur test numbers were what like 250 or about...that's sucks if ur under 60. So to cycle and come off you'll lose everything. Although if u dont have any low t symptoms and ur throwing dick then that's ok...u treat trt by symptoms not numbers. If you're insurance is awesome or u got va coverage see an endo and explain ur low test numbers. If u gotta do out of pocket theres trt clinics and organizations where a doctor interviews you like over webcam and reviews ur bloodwork to make changes and keep u dialed in. Runs bout 200 a month includes everything but labs. Self trt much cheaper but you'll need a few years research and knowledge. Prostate, bloods, cholesterol, BP, etc....lots to monitor. If u run a cycle I'd try a reputable source and try test cyp. 200mg split first week to check for reaction, then 500mg....keep in mind ur blood will thicken in a month or two and ull prolly have to donate at 6 or 8 weeks. Lastly u cant pursue trt with test levels at 3500 so ud wait till ur levels are natty again. If I did a cycle I'd then pct and recover then see an endo. Dont jump into it. You need to be educated and have everything before u start...nolvadex, an AI, clomid...hcg maybe.
     
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  20. 350lift

    350lift Member

    Chances are the fact u have the deca ester you’ll be shut down.

    Only your body is gonna have its own reaction to amount you’ve been taking for how long