Looking To Start My First Cycle With Less Than 3 Months Experience in the Gym

mafaon

Member
OK so I'm gonna be straight up with you guys. Before you lay into me, just please bear in mind I'm not looking for anyone's validation. I am prepared for whatever scrutiny this community has to offer. This is my story:

I'm a 28 yr old black dude. For all my life I've been the thin weak nerdy type. I'm 6'1" and I weigh approximately 160lbs on an empty stomach. I'm what they call a hardgainer -- I can easily eat a ton of food and not gain a pound.

Like many Americans, I joined the gym this year to fulfill one of my New Year's Resolutions. I also started a new high calorie diet (around 3500 cal per day) to support my new gym routine. However, January has barely drawn to a close, and I've already given up on my new diet and workout routines.

Why did I give up? It's not because I'm a quitter or because I'm lazy. It's because I recognize that my biology is working against me. I don't want to waste my time punching against the wind if there is a more effective way out there to achieve my objective.

I'm nowhere near my natural peak right now. I think for my height (6'1"), my natural peak is around 195 pounds. Yes I know it's possible for me to keep at it and eventually reach my natural peak; but that would take a gigantic investment in time, money, and sweat for me to get there. I've set a goal to hit 185 this summer and possibly 195 by the end of the year. I doubt I can get there naturally.

Because of my high metabolic rate, I'd have to spend an inordinate amount of money on food to support the kind of diet I need to gain muscle. I just don't have the time and patience to make that kind of investment only to see very little gains naturally.

That's why I've come to the decision to use anabolic steroids. It's something that I've considered carefully and I've determined that it's the right course for me. Yes I know many will tell me I am not ready for this and that I should try get more experience in the gym and achieve my natural peak first but I am not deterred.

For most of you, steroids are a way to get past your peak and become that beast you've always dream of becoming. I, on the other hand, am not looking to be a beast (at least not right now). I just want to get to my 'natural' peak. I'll be employing AAS as a vehicle to help me get there.

Yes I know that AAS by themselves won't make me muscular and ripped. I know that I have to put in the hard work at the gym and have the right diet to realize the gains from any AAS cycle. I am fully prepared for that. I am also aware of the side effects of the different steroids out there.
This is an informed adult decision that I am making.

I am already planning my first cycle which will consist of Test and Dbol. My biggest issue right now is settling on the sources. I am open to any suggestions you might have on that. I pretty much know which labs I want to get my gear from (Alpha Pharma is at the top of my list), but it's finding the right source for the lab that's holding me back right now as there is so much divergent information out there about any given source.

OK I know this is a long thread, and I hope you haven't fallen asleep by now but I'm interested in knowing your thoughts on this...
 
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insaiyan93

Member
Now, I'm no doctor, but you do realize that you are still going to have to eat mass quantities of food for this to happen? Anyone else please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not an expert, but you're going to have to eat mass quantities of food to get where you want even on gear, so you're going to be spending money on gear and on all the food you need, so that's out the window. It sounds like you only gave the new diet and routine a very short trial one and decided it was too hard, not trying to be a dick but I mean...shit dude I'm cutting down right now which is the equivalent of bulking for you and it sucks and it's hard and not the least bit fun but if you stick with something you will see results. I say stick with it, lift heavy, eat big, and stay away from cardio.
 

Marcus

Member
3,500 is a joke. Especially if you say your a "hard-gainer." So few who use that that term actually are.

Let me tell you what will happen, you'll pin and pin and continue to be lazy (maybe a little more motivated in the gym), but because of your lack of experience in the gym and kitchen, your gains will be virtually non-existent. You have to eat and work hard to make steroids of any kind work for you.

Up your cal count to 5,000 and commit for fucking 6 months and then revisit the IDEA of using steroids... But I would suggest waiting 1-2 years minimum of hard work before considering
 

Skull

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@Sparky_332 is right on the money. If you dont know how to gain mass without gear, it isn't going to be any different with it. 3months experince smfh. Should have done 3yr at least of hardcore dieting an training. You are going about it all kinds of wrong an the funny thing is, you already know it smh. Your gains will be short lived just like im sure your weightligting hobby will be. Hardgainer my ass. You just dont want it bad enough an your not willing to put out the effort. Your the type that wants it all right know huh? It doesn't work that way at all. Bodybuilding is a fuckin marathon not an all out sprint. You get out of it what you put in it. It takes years an years, not just a few months on cycle. This is a lifestyle. If your not in it at 100% day in an day out, you wont gain shit. You should have tried eating 8 full course meals a day if your such a "hardgainer". If that didnt work you should have upped it to 10. I bet you dont even eat half that lmfao. I have talked to so many guys that say the same thing you just did. When I ask them to break down their meals for me their like...oh I eat alot bahaha. Just like you, they haven't the slightest idea on how to diet inorder to gain true mass. Instead they'll throw that very same card down cuz they have no clue on how to play the game!!!!! Whatever im out......
 

jaymaximus

Member
If youre not looking for any validation, why did you post? As has already been said, AAS are not magic. You still gotta take in A LOT of cals and train. If you cant do it without roids you wont be able to do it with roids. Get your training and diet straight. Otherwise youll just be Butt Crack Billy, telling people wait until you start lifting (inside joke).

Also lifting an help with the thin part, but not the "weak, nerdy" thing. Thats all you. Its a state of mind. You need some confidence, and muscles may help, but thats all in your head.
 

mkulltra58

Member
You truly don't realize what you want to get into. Let me start by saying that you have been "training" for less then a full month. You don't even lift yet bro.

First and most important, steroids are not like recreational drugsalMessing with your hormones is no fucking joke. Read the threads about dude's whose dick doesn't work anymore after half a cycle. Are you ready to have to stick a needle in yourself every week for the rest of your life because you fucked up your natural test production??

Second, as was previously stated, you need to learn how to build muscle naturally first and build a base before even considering steroids. This is done through proper training and nutrition which the majority of people at the gym have no clue of. I personally recommend muscleforlife .com to help you learn the proper way to eat and train. Otherwise, you won't gain anything for the risks you are taking using steroids. Steroids don't just grow muscles for you. They just help make the process more efficent to a trained person.

Third, you are going to risk your going to prison, your career, and your family by buying drugs on the black market that aren't going to do anything to help you right now and possibly mess you up for life.

Finally, like Jay said, why are you posting on a steroid forum if you are not looking for validation. Because you are looking for a source?? Meso isn't a source board so you are on the wrong forum. Go to eroids and come back to Meso after you fuck yourself up and are looking for advice on how to fix your messed up endocrine system.

Have fun with your flaccid dick and no gains. See you around.
 
Another thing to consider... If you've only been training for 3 months, there isn't a snowballs chance in hell that you've built a solid enough foundation of strength AND ESPECIALLY haven't strengthened you connective tissue nearly enough to be using AAS's. The Dbol especially can give you rapid (and in this case artificial) strength gains. This is a recipe for a pulled/strained/torn ligament or tendon. This even happens all the time to people who HAVE a foundation. Imagine the risk someone with your limited training history is undertaking.
Eat and train hard for at least 6 months (preferably a year) and build a foundation of strength. This will also strengthen your connective tissue and improve bone density and allow you to continue growing without a nagging or debilitating injury . Like many have said, this is a game for people who are in it for the long haul. No one, juicer, natty or otherwise sees impressive physique improvements without good LONG TERM nutrition and programming. Its simple, its hard and its called consistency.
 

kiwigear

Member
Cycle food lol.. Force feed, eat every hour and a half and ffs spend some decent lags in the gym dude .. Ur at the stage where ul make newbie gains fast and ul build a foundation.. Revisit the idea further down the road but u can put decent size on now with dedication , diet and creatine monohydrate.. But choice is yours
 
If your not willing to put the time and dedication into eating healthy and building a good workout lifestyle fuck it just take roids. Buy as much juice as u can and shove it into your body. Obviously your not going to do the necessary research to conduct a proper cycle and PCT so no reason to waste money on SERMS and AI... buy more juice. When your hormones are all fucked up and tits are leaking make sure to post with pics so we can have another example on how a lazy piece if spoonfed shit shouldn't do PED's.
 

Prairie Boy

Member
Everyone is hitting it bang on bud,listen to them.i will also add that without any real train or base....your cns is not developed enough to handle strength gains u might make,therefore leading to major injuries or damage to yourself.just my 2 cents bro
 
OK so I'm gonna be straight up with you guys. Before you lay into me, just please bear in mind I'm not looking for anyone's validation. I am prepared for whatever scrutiny this community has to offer. This is my story:

I'm a 28 yr old black dude. For all my life I've been the thin weak nerdy type. I'm 6'1" and I weigh approximately 160lbs on an empty stomach. I'm what they call a hardgainer -- I can easily eat a ton of food and not gain a pound.

Like many Americans, I joined the gym this year to fulfill one of my New Year's Resolutions. I also started a new high calorie diet (around 3500 cal per day) to support my new gym routine. However, January has barely drawn to a close, and I've already given up on my new diet and workout routines.

Why did I give up? It's not because I'm a quitter or because I'm lazy. It's because I recognize that my biology is working against me. I don't want to waste my time punching against the wind if there is a more effective way out there to achieve my objective.

I'm nowhere near my natural peak right now. I think for my height (6'1"), my natural peak is around 195 pounds. Yes I know it's possible for me to keep at it and eventually reach my natural peak; but that would take a gigantic investment in time, money, and sweat for me to get there. I've set a goal to hit 185 this summer and possibly 195 by the end of the year. I doubt I can get there naturally.

Because of my high metabolic rate, I'd have to spend an inordinate amount of money on food to support the kind of diet I need to gain muscle. I just don't have the time and patience to make that kind of investment only to see very little gains naturally.

That's why I've come to the decision to use anabolic steroids. It's something that I've considered carefully and I've determined that it's the right course for me. Yes I know many will tell me I am not ready for this and that I should try get more experience in the gym and achieve my natural peak first but I am not deterred.

For most of you, steroids are a way to get past your peak and become that beast you've always dream of becoming. I, on the other hand, am not looking to be a beast (at least not right now). I just want to get to my 'natural' peak. I'll be employing AAS as a vehicle to help me get there.

Yes I know that AAS by themselves won't make me muscular and ripped. I know that I have to put in the hard work at the gym and have the right diet to realize the gains from any AAS cycle. I am fully prepared for that. I am also aware of the side effects of the different steroids out there.
This is an informed adult decision that I am making.

I am already planning my first cycle which will consist of Test and Dbol. My biggest issue right now is settling on the sources. I am open to any suggestions you might have on that. I pretty much know which labs I want to get my gear from (Alpha Pharma is at the top of my list), but it's finding the right source for the lab that's holding me back right now as there is so much divergent information out there about any given source.

OK I know this is a long thread, and I hope you haven't fallen asleep by now but I'm interested in knowing your thoughts on this...
No disrespect at all bro, but you are no where near ready for a cycle. I trained 12 years natural before I even considered it. And it's still very hard work. You'll probably experience more sides then anything. Your libido mite go thru the roof, but then your a skinny twerp walking around with a boner at all times. Again, no disrespect, just brutal meso knowledge to pass down. Good luck bro!

The tank 456
 

mafaon

Member
If you cant eat enough without gear, you will find it exceedingly difficult,if not outright impossible to eat enough while on. Not enough food = suboptimal (if any) gains. Sure, youll put on some water weight but it will disappear before you complete PCT.

Now, I'm no doctor, but you do realize that you are still going to have to eat mass quantities of food for this to happen? Anyone else please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not an expert, but you're going to have to eat mass quantities of food to get where you want even on gear, so you're going to be spending money on gear and on all the food you need, so that's out the window. It sounds like you only gave the new diet and routine a very short trial one and decided it was too hard, not trying to be a dick but I mean...shit dude I'm cutting down right now which is the equivalent of bulking for you and it sucks and it's hard and not the least bit fun but if you stick with something you will see results. I say stick with it, lift heavy, eat big, and stay away from cardio.

You guys make an excellent point. I know I will have to keep up with the high calorie diet while on gear to see the gains. The gear for me would be an extra motivation to do that. If I do it naturally I won't be as motivated as I know my body would be working against me. In a sense the gear is just additional support... something to reassure me that if I keep up with my diet and workout routine I will at least see the gains I am working for.

Also I need that extra boost the gear would provide me to push my muscles to exhaustion in the gym and aid with recovery time so that my muscles will be in the best anabolic state possible.
 

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