Marijuana [Cannabis]

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by biggerandbetter, May 8, 2011.

  1. biggerandbetter

    biggerandbetter Junior Member

    hey Bill a couple of my friends from work have gotten me in the habit of smoking a j a couple times a week to unwind. i havent smoked since highschool but i figured its better than drinking

    lately iv been noticing im falling short of breath at the gym alot faster than normal could this be a side effect?

    if so what other bodybuilding related side effects are attributed to marijuana use?
     
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  2. Bill Roberts

    Bill Roberts Steroid Forum Leader

    Re: Bill Roberts marijuana question

    I'm sorry, but I have no knowledge at all on marijuana as it related to bb'ing or in general really, past what anybody might have. Hopefully someone else can advise!
     
  3. Jeton

    Jeton Member

    Re: Bill Roberts marijuana question

    get a vaporizer stat. i smoked off n on for 20 years n stopped almost 3 years ago due to COPD...n trust me, Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease sucks to have.
     
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  4. loveyourbody

    loveyourbody Member

    Re: Bill Roberts marijuana question

    It's called will power :/
     
  5. Wiscon

    Wiscon Member

    Re: Bill Roberts marijuana question

    Were I inclined to relive my misspent youth, I'd opt for brownies over doobies all day long.
     
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  6. TZTARZAN2000

    TZTARZAN2000 Member

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    i smoke daily for 30 years. no problems! spark it up and pass it this way! :D
     
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  7. billydidit

    billydidit Member

    Re: Bill Roberts marijuana question

    Yes I must admit that it would be hard to imagine anyone smoking more than I did from age 17 to age 30 something. I played college sports, and ran a 4.40 40 at 6' 225lbs

    I also have a 4.0 GPA MBA

    I am able to lift (although I do believe that some sort of toll has been taken on my lungs...not like cancer...just kind of out of breath until I can work through it to get myself back into cardio shape)

    One huge mistake is takin a toke and then tryin to work out. You will be out of breath. You will be almost too relaxed to work hard enough. Now when I bucked hay bales for over a decade (these are three string 135lb to 145lb average timothy bales) we would easily move 100 to 200 tons per day. In order to do that kind of work we got all toked up and it actually helped.

    Sweat a gallon every few hours, moving fast, and breathing very hard...all while lifting, twisting, pulling , pushing, and stacking. All the hay bucks i knew smoked and they dont have lung problems.

    I you are going to smoke a vaporizer is great, so is makin brownies, but do it on your day off, and be prepared to work to make up for the play time. I actually believe a little herb helps me relax and heal, and that the lung problems are not noticed.

    -billy
     
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  8. huntlo

    huntlo Junior Member

    Re: Bill Roberts marijuana question

    Marijuana can slightly inhibit the production of testosterone,
    but when you're cycle you ain't pumping out any man juice
    any way!

    For a couple years, a smoked a bowl before I went to bed to
    help me sleep. That and laying down in a dark room full of
    blacklights listening to live recordings of a Dave Mathews
    concert is pretty damn relaxing. Possibly the best side of
    effect of weed is how it can turn a boring fuck into thinking your
    having sex with a porn star.

    All this talk about pot got me thinking about calling my connect
    for a couple g's. :D
     
  9. someanddone

    someanddone Member

    Re: Bill Roberts marijuana question

    I can't remember where I read it, but there was a top-level bodybuilder back in the 70s or 80s I think, that would get high as fuck before hitting the weights. The article went on to say that many bodybuilders in the 70s and 80s were getting high before they worked out. I tried it back in the day, and I would say that whether or not it helps or hurts has a lot to do with what kind of bud you're smoking. If it's a high-quality clean sativa, you will likely get a little boost and be so immersed in the workout that it will help you push through limits without realizing it. However, a blunt of indica "regs" as we called it back in the day (you know, sticks and stems and seeds amongst dark green garbage) would likely destroy a workout and make you want to sit on the couch until you go to sleep.










    "....if you don't like my fire, then don't come around...."
     
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  10. billydidit

    billydidit Member

    Re: Bill Roberts marijuana question

    You are right. Some weed seems to kind of energize you while other types can send you to space camp.

    Here is the thing. I don't want to take any chances (even with two spotters) when there is enough weight over the top of my head/neck to kill me. I want that total focus.

    On the ohter hand, I have done extreme physical and dangerous labor while stoned out of my mind. We called it "hay buck asprin" back then.

    For me it's more of a relaxation / at night / let those aches and pains fade away / make me super hungry / make sex nice / sleep aid type of thing. I don't smoke it any more, but for a couple decades I found that that was the best use. Made music sound better too.

    Regardless, I have a friend who suggests that no smoke of any kind will benefit the lungs or lifting/workouts. eg - our lungs were not made to have smoke in them. I say he is a bit of a bitch boy but whatever, to each thier own.

    Case in point, whaty works for one will not work for the other. If you can get your game on stoned then go for it, if you find yourself panting and falling behind, then don't smoke. If you must get high then eat it, make butter, cookies, whatever...

    peace,

    -billy
     
  11. Michael Scally MD

    Michael Scally MD Doctor of Medicine

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    Male-Female Differences In The Effects Of Cannabinoids
    [Email me for the full-text article.]

    The use of cannabis for recreational and medicinal purposes has been documented worldwide for centuries. During this time, a large body of contradictory claims regarding the effects of cannabis on sexual functioning and behavior has accumulated. Some suggest that cannabis acts as an effective aphrodisiac, whereas the Indian Hemp Drugs Commission (1894) believed that it was toxic to sexual health. These conflicting accounts have sparked many empirical studies since the 1970s. In this review, the works of neuroscientists, endocrinologists, pharmacologists, psychologists and clinicians are integrated in an attempt to produce a comprehensive picture of the relationship between cannabis use and sexuality in males and females.


    Gorzalka BB, Hill MN, Chang SC. Male-female differences in the effects of cannabinoids on sexual behavior and gonadal hormone function. Horm Behav 2010;58(1):91-9. Male-female differences in the effects of cannabin... [Horm Behav. 2010] - PubMed result

    The putative role of the endocannabinoid system and the effects of cannabis use in male and female sexual functioning are summarized. The influence of cannabis intake on sexual behavior and arousability appear to be dose-dependent in both men and women, although women are far more consistent in reporting facilitatory effects. Furthermore, evidence from nonhuman species indicate somewhat more beneficial than debilitating effects of cannabinoids on female sexual proceptivity and receptivity while suggesting predominantly detrimental effects on male sexual motivation and erectile functioning. Data from human and nonhuman species converge on the ephemeral nature of THC-induced testosterone decline. However, it is clear that cannabinoid-induced inhibition of male sexual behavior is independent of concurrent declines in testosterone levels. Investigations also reveal a suppression of gonadotropin release by cannabinoids across various species. Historical milestones and promising future directions in the area of cannabinoid and sexuality research are also outlined in this review.
     
  12. texasdealer

    texasdealer Junior Member

    Re: Bill Roberts marijuana question

    Pass that sh17 !!!!!

    No problems over here !!!!
     
  13. Michael Scally MD

    Michael Scally MD Doctor of Medicine

  14. zkt

    zkt Member

    Re: Marijuana Question

    Take Jeton`s advice and buy/build a vaporizer. Its the micro-particulates in the smoke that fuck up your pulmonary function. You wont like emphasema. Take my word for it.
     
  15. billydidit

    billydidit Member

    Re: Marijuana Question

    i agree. smoking pot causes emphasema. vapo or make butter bro.

    -billy
     
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  16. whitegato777

    whitegato777 Member

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    Its known for raising estrogen and cortisol
     
  17. zkt

    zkt Member

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    Those are minor transient effects and are usually associated with over use. Respect her and dont get greedy and she wont hurt you. Some strains make me hornier and have a dopamine2 agonist like effect.
     
  18. zkt

    zkt Member

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    Thats pretty damn interesting, as usual from you, especially the glutamate connection, which memantine addresses- but a bit vague. Doubt that Icould lay my hands on the full article. Could you?
     
  19. Michael Scally MD

    Michael Scally MD Doctor of Medicine

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    Meier MH, Caspi A, Ambler A, et al. Persistent cannabis users show neuropsychological decline from childhood to midlife. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. Persistent cannabis users show neuropsychological decline from childhood to midlife

    Recent reports show that fewer adolescents believe that regular cannabis use is harmful to health. Concomitantly, adolescents are initiating cannabis use at younger ages, and more adolescents are using cannabis on a daily basis. The purpose of the present study was to test the association between persistent cannabis use and neuropsychological decline and determine whether decline is concentrated among adolescent-onset cannabis users. Participants were members of the Dunedin Study, a prospective study of a birth cohort of 1,037 individuals followed from birth (1972/1973) to age 38 y. Cannabis use was ascertained in interviews at ages 18, 21, 26, 32, and 38 y. Neuropsychological testing was conducted at age 13 y, before initiation of cannabis use, and again at age 38 y, after a pattern of persistent cannabis use had developed. Persistent cannabis use was associated with neuropsychological decline broadly across domains of functioning, even after controlling for years of education. Informants also reported noticing more cognitive problems for persistent cannabis users. Impairment was concentrated among adolescent-onset cannabis users, with more persistent use associated with greater decline. Further, cessation of cannabis use did not fully restore neuropsychological functioning among adolescent-onset cannabis users. Findings are suggestive of a neurotoxic effect of cannabis on the adolescent brain and highlight the importance of prevention and policy efforts targeting adolescents.