Black Beard

Junior Member
I've been running the meditrope brand for a few months now and have run several HGH and IGF-1 serum tests on them. I'll be using this long-term for anti-aging purposes, i test every single kit, vial, raw powder i order for HGH/AAS/etc. So i will be regularly testing my growth hormone.


I fiigured i could share results with everyone here as it would benefit the Meso community, as well encourage sources to keep up product quality/reward them with good publicity, etc.


I am a long-time lurker here and a little more active on many other boards, after seeing the positive responses and words of thanks from so many people via PM and lab threads i figured i would post my results on here as well.


I'll post the labs i have ran so far and update this thread with any new labs i get on new kits/batches/tops. Enjoy.
 

Black Beard

Junior Member
Mauve top #54 serum GH results



GH SERUM: 36.7 NG/ML


Amazing results, reconstituted as 10 IU (i know it's advertised as 12) 1 mL bac water injected IM to left deltoid exactly 3 hours 35 minutes before blood draw.

I had been running for 2 weeks prior to the result but could already tell this was legit growth hormone.



Strong lethargy post-injection, pumped muscles on a caloric deficit/low carbs, skin and hair softer/oilier, higher libido and; stronger erections @ 4 IU IM bedtime daily.
 

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Black Beard

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Mauve top #71 serum GH results


GH SERUM: 22.7 NG/ML


Full vial w/ 1 mL bac water, pinned to right upper quad exactly 3 hours and 3 minutes before blood draw.


The #54s were injected to left delt, 3 hours and 35 minutes before blood draw, so this might explain the lower serum number on these. Deltoids provide higher peak serum levels and bioavailability than any other injection site and the 30 minute difference may have lead to a lower peak.


In the studies done on pharmaceutical HGH, serum results were around 20 ng/mL, so i am happy with these results.


 

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Black Beard

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Yellow top GH serum #73


GH SERUM: 23.9 NG/ML

Injected into left delt IM, reconstituted in 1 mL of bac water, exactly 3 hours 40 minutes before blood draw. Same serum results as Pharmaceutical grade HGH. Yellows are good to go.


 

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Black Beard

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Mauve tops #76 GH serum results


GH SERUM: 39.1 ng/mL


Left delt, IM, full vial. Blood draw at 3 hours and 21 minutes.
 

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Black Beard

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Nice, thank you. Will you be running IGF-1 for the yellows?

I only had 1 kit of yellows, so only ran GH serum. I like to take a new batch of HGH for 6 weeks before testing serum IGF-1. It takes 4 weeks for IGF-1 levels to reach close to max when starting HGH but that IGF-1 increase can last a few weeks so i do 6 week between batches to rule out a carry over effect.
 

Black Beard

Junior Member
I don’t do serum test anymore because I have scored a 59 on a serum with pharmacom but with the same kit only had 160’s igf 3/4weeks later at 4iu a day.

But those are great serum numbers.

Were you running any deca/tren or AI/SERMS? Any oral AAS?


GH serum test is very useful because you can rapidly test if you have real HGH or bunk garbage. @Tiredandhot


Serum levels can vary a lot between people and even the same kit due to absorbtion differences, injection sites and other factors. Good HGH can be as low as 15 ng/mL to as high as 40 ng/mL, per studies this was the intra-individual range with pharmaceutical grade HGH.
 
Were you running any deca/tren or AI/SERMS? Any oral AAS?


GH serum test is very useful because you can rapidly test if you have real HGH or bunk garbage. @Tiredandhot


Serum levels can vary a lot between people and even the same kit due to absorbtion differences, injection sites and other factors. Good HGH can be as low as 15 ng/mL to as high as 40 ng/mL, per studies this was the intra-individual range with pharmaceutical grade HGH.

I was just on test. I assumed it was just a peptide in the vial and that was one reason for the high score on the serum.

It is useful but igf is the only real way to test if it’s “real” growth as some Peptides will increase your GH number but will not let the liver secrete more IGF-1

That’s why I only test igf-1 levels now.
 

Black Beard

Junior Member
I was just on test. I assumed it was just a peptide in the vial and that was one reason for the high score on the serum.

It is useful but igf is the only real way to test if it’s “real” growth as some Peptides will increase your GH number but will not let the liver secrete more IGF-1

That’s why I only test igf-1 levels now.


I understand what you mean. For me, if the serum levels are reaching close to or the same to the actual studies that injected 10 IU and tested levels every hour, then I have a good confidence that it's HGH. A peptide would not have the same pharmacokinetic profile as it has to stimulate endogenous release of GH. It is unlikely to mimick HGHs profile from the studies so closely. If anything, it would be an HGH fragment or the other type 191 vs 192. I do have my baseline and in my experience and others, 1 IU will get you about 100 ng/mL per. So around 400 ng/mL for 4 IU as seen in my Mauves #54 test.
 
I understand what you mean. For me, if the serum levels are reaching close to or the same to the actual studies that injected 10 IU and tested levels every hour, then I have a good confidence that it's HGH. A peptide would not have the same pharmacokinetic profile as it has to stimulate endogenous release of GH. It is unlikely to mimick HGHs profile from the studies so closely. If anything, it would be an HGH fragment or the other type 191 vs 192. I do have my baseline and in my experience and others, 1 IU will get you about 100 ng/mL per. So around 400 ng/mL for 4 IU as seen in my Mauves #54 test.

O I’m not doubting the Mauves at all. And I like to see others pulling multiple bloods on products for the community.

Would a fragment cause a high hgh serum number? Or what would you think would cause a high serum number 3 hrs after pinning
 

gearwolf

Member
Mauve top #54 serum IGF-1 results


IGF-1 SERUM: 367 NG/ML on 4 IUs daily @ bedtime (IM) for 4 weeks
That's pretty much the expected (so a good) result - since you were taking them at night and not in the morinng, when did you get tested & what to you think the optimal timing for testing IGF-1 post injection would be?
 

Black Beard

Junior Member
O I’m not doubting the Mauves at all. And I like to see others pulling multiple bloods on products for the community.

Would a fragment cause a high hgh serum number? Or what would you think would cause a high serum number 3 hrs after pinning

Those are my thoughts exactly, i doubt a fragment would have the same exact pharmacokinetic profile as pharma HGH. ( Going by the data/charts/graphs in the studies ) but i feel it would be more likely to pop as HGH in a test. That's why a good GH serum results give me confidence, and as a preliminary test, it can't be beat.

That's pretty much the expected (so a good) result - since you were taking them at night and not in the morinng, when did you get tested & what to you think the optimal timing for testing IGF-1 post injection would be?

There is very little change in serum IGF-1 levels immediately after injection. It takes 4 weeks of HGH injections for IGF-1 levels to reach close to as high as they will get on that particular kit and dose of HGH.

4 weeks is the ideal time to test IGF-1, i like to wait 6 weeks if i've already been taking HGH because the IGF-1 increase can last a few weeks even after you discontinue the HGH. The GH serum test is awesome because you don't have to wait at all, and can test it as soon as you get it and have results within 1-3 days.
 

B Ware

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It takes 4 weeks for IGF-1 levels to reach close to max

It takes 4 weeks of HGH injections for IGF-1 levels to reach close to as high as they will get on that particular kit and dose of HGH.

Ehh... I was told 2 weeks for igf-1 to max. I recently tested at just 13 days and had a igf-1 score of 403 on 4ius.

I tested again another 2 weeks after that and had a lower score but I had also changed my dosing schedule from split doses to single so I know thats what probably effected my score.
 
O I’m not doubting the Mauves at all. And I like to see others pulling multiple bloods on products for the community.

Would a fragment cause a high hgh serum number? Or what would you think would cause a high serum number 3 hrs after pinning
Sounds like we need to test this theory. This could be very eye opening if it turns out to be true!
 
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