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FatNotFluffy1998

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Hi here is my 1st planning "cycle"
Generally i will be staying on higher doses of test enan propably for the rest of my life cause of my genetically low T which is around 380-400 (yeah try to eat healthy, do sports, do not drink bla bla bla i do such lifestyle for my entire life so there is no way solve this problem naturally in my case). But for some time i would like to "blast" a little bit with other compounds to get this lean shredded shape for holidays :D.
1. test enan 200mg (2x100 monday, thursday) all the time as i mentioned above.
2. oxandrolone 20-30 mg each day, 8-12 weeks (my bf before starting ox will be about 15-17%)
3.masterone 100-150mg (im gonna add this compound when i finish with anavar, or add it after 6-8 weeks and fly with this compound for next maybe 8 weeks, my bf will be about 12% (maybe less). I heard that above 12% of bf there is no reason to add masterone cause of lack of benefits.
When i finish my master i return to my trt.

My daily supplementation: fish oil 5g, NAC 1,5, liv52 3 pills, d3 4000iu, wit C 1g, B-complex (nac and liv52 only while taking oxa). Of course during whole cycle i will be taking 500iu of Hcg separated into 2x250 weekly.

What do you think guys about this idea? What would you alter if you were me? Do you think that im gonna need some AI while taking masterone and oxa together? Im asking cause i heard that there are people who do not need anything like that while taking such amount of dht derivatives compared to this actually small amount of test. Thanks for attention, CY@
 
Oxandrolon is to low in my opinion. I tried it with same dosage = zero results.
After that i tryed 90mg/day = and here i can say it helps realy to burn fat and get a leaner look (You have to Split it, 3times a day, if you have prob, with youre stomake take 30g of Glutamin -- 15 on empty stomake 15 post Workout and pantoprazole.
Mast is too low also...min. is 350/week. You can add it without problems for youre time you wanna use it.
 
Eisenbeiser said:
Oxandrolon is to low in my opinion. I tried it with same dosage = zero results.
After that i tryed 90mg/day = and here i can say it helps realy to burn fat and get a leaner look (You have to Split it, 3times a day, if you have prob, with youre stomake take 30g of Glutamin -- 15 on empty stomake 15 post Workout and pantoprazole.
Mast is too low also...min. is 350/week. You can add it without problems for youre time you wanna use it.
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maybe you just didnt have legit anavar. 90 mg ed would be big dosage for an intermediate bbuilder, when im just a newbie who just wanna do good cutting cycle trying not to die cause of sides lol
 
20-30 anavar is really nothing, its female dosage.

I tried 50mg before and it gave me some good results. Gained 4kg muscle while losing body fat. My gear was pharma grade too.

I think 50 is a good start. Just take it with a grain of salt tho, everyone is different.
 
I’ve always been one for minimal dosages and putting training and diet as #1, but you have to do distinguish “minimal dose versus effective dose”

There is no reason to put something in your body and not at least get something out of it. And no reason to just assume that 100mg per week of this versus 500mg/wk of that won’t effects labs to some degree. What I’m saying here is that sometimes what you think will throw off labs really doesn’t to the degree that you predicted
 
littledeerxd said:
20-30 anavar is really nothing, its female dosage.

I tried 50mg before and it gave me some good results. Gained 4kg muscle while losing body fat. My gear was pharma grade too.

I think 50 is a good start. Just take it with a grain of salt tho, everyone is different.
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with a grain of salt tho, what does it mean brother? Im from Austria and i dont actually know what you meant? Anyway, do you think that those amount of liv52 and nac would be enough to protect my liver while taking 50mg ed, or i should be adding?
 
FatNotFluffy1998 said:
with a grain of salt tho, what does it mean brother? Im from Austria and i dont actually know what you meant? Anyway, do you think that those amount of liv52 and nac would be enough to protect my liver while taking 50mg ed, or i should be adding?
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Take it with a grain of salt = don't believe every words I say, because everyone has a different body.

Take some tudca to protect liver

20 morning 20 noon 10 before bed

That's what I did with anavar

It's going to make you tired though...anavar is bad on the liver
 
littledeerxd said:
Take it with a grain of salt = don't believe every words I say, because everyone has a different body.

Take some tudca to protect liver

20 morning 20 noon 10 before bed

That's what I did with anavar

It's going to make you tired though...anavar is bad on the liver
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How long i can run 50mg ? 8, 12 weeks?
 
littledeerxd said:
20-30 anavar is really nothing, its female dosage.

I tried 50mg before and it gave me some good results. Gained 4kg muscle while losing body fat. My gear was pharma grade too.

I think 50 is a good start. Just take it with a grain of salt tho, everyone is different.
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Who said it is a female doseage?


There is nothing wrong with utilizing low doses of particular compounds to obtain a unique effect it has and utilizing other compounds for growth. This is to prevent nasty sides that would affect oral intake and training
 
Do you have low T symptoms at 300 - 400 ng/dL? I am curious about those Low T cases when there is no hypogonadism, I just wonder why? Maybe It's like height, some people are tall and others are short, and it is what it is, maybe those 400ng/dL would work right for you, as 800ng/dL does for another person.

First cycle I would rather do 500mg of only test cycle, I want a blown up experience for the first time. Var 30-50 mg is plenty if it's legit.
 
Actually i was also confused when i saw they offering going into the deep water on the 1st cycle. I think most people on this forum are crazy people addicted to these compounds :DDDD
Cridi887 said:
Who said it is a female doseage?


There is nothing wrong with utilizing low doses of particular compounds to obtain a unique effect it has and utilizing other compounds for growth. This is to prevent nasty sides that would affect oral intake and training
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FatNotFluffy1998 said:
Actually i was also confused when i saw they offering going into the deep water on the 1st cycle. I think most people on this forum are crazy people addicted to these compounds :DDDD
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It's no better right now utilizing multiple compounds at low doses. Also shutting down HPTA for a unreasonable cycle.

and I dont know what you mean by addicted.
 
Take your time reading, most of us here use way too much gear to compensate for sub par genetics, inexperience, impatience or just plain laziness.

Read the logs, people grow from different dosages and protocols. Search the old threads for first cycles, there's a million of them.

Make an educated decision based on your appetite for risk as well as your goals. Good luck.
 
Dump the orals, dump the mast. just stick with Test. all that faffing around with other compounds on your first cycle is just a waste of time and money.
 
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