Nandrolone/Endomorph= balloon.

Discussion in 'Steroid Forum' started by penche, Aug 13, 2017.

  1. penche

    penche Member

    I've given nandrolone several chances while hoping I didn't look like a water buffalo. I will admit my diet is not perfect although I lose almost all vascularity on NPP. Diet is roughly 200p/300c/100f.

    Although on tren with the same senerio it's completely the opposite. Hard, vascular, increase in size, and super strong. I will say I've been my largest on nandrolone though.

    Keep my estro in check too. So is this more of a problem with genetics? I can get fat easily so I have to watch my diet and sugar intake. I'm more of a strong Endomorph naturally. I lean towards genetics because a good friend gets vascular on nandrolone. Anyone else encounter this problem and did you fix it? This opinion is for me only, but I'm starting to think nothing out there compliments test the way Tren does :). Bummer
     
  2. Holistic

    Holistic Member

    So with NPP, I like masteron to give hardness and I am actually on bold cypionate now with 700mg NPP... little bloated but take 10mg cialis preworkout and veins pop all over back of triceps - obviously forearms and biceps...so try some masteron or EQ with NPP and keep your test low to let the NPP do the work. Just my thoughts...
     
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  3. Eman

    Eman Member

    How much do you weigh? Your protein intake seems kind of low?

    I think genetics do play a part in this... But, the effects you're looking to mitigate can be prevented to a certain extent if you're proactive and diet is probably the first thing.

    I'm going to do a little experiment this winter with nandrolone. I'm going to keep my diet reasonable while I increase my calories and I'm going to be doing more cardio work than I've ever done before, let alone during a growth period. I'm curious to see what happens, I always get a lot of good effects when I keep up with a consistent cardio routine. Keeping up with it is key though.

    I'm going to be including bold cyp too, so I'm intrigued to read @Holistic post because my next thought is what adding another compound can work for you or against you depending on what you choose.
     
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  4. penche

    penche Member

    @Eman i weigh roughly 205lbs at 5'7 height and can ballon to 215 on nandrolone but I look ugly big. You're right my protein can increase. @Holistic did make a good point on lowering my Test I havnt experimented with that yet. I usually have my test higher than all other ped's. It has done me very well with the exception of nandro. Come to think of it my friend uses a low dose trt dose of test and raises his NPP to 500mg per week. I was afraid to do this because didn't know if it would effect my libidio or limp noodle. Only one way to find out I suppose.

    I don't do cardio so I'm sure that would help. I walked 2 miles today because I'm disgusted with my look. Same time I dropped nandro and went back to tren.
    I've heard Test 1 Cyp is like Tren minus the bad side effects on health. I'm gonna continue with liss cardio and tighten my diet a bit more. How do you react to nandrolone @Eman and can you elaborate on what other compound you thought might help
     
  5. Holistic

    Holistic Member

    Above 500mg test... I start getting test sides bloat and moon face... Include npp in the mix and its bloat city. So my go to is Trestolone at 30mg a day with NPP and low test 400mg. Trestolone gives me 3D shoulders and traps that pop... Hard to hold the muscle from Trestolone, but the Trestolone gives a full look that hides the bloat or atleast makes it more aesthetically pleasing. I just started the bold cyp so I'll report back, but I front loaded last week. Also, I made exemestane liquid at 20mg and I will microdose 5mg here and there as needed to keep the water off. I feel like frequent dosing keeps my estrogen in range and more stable.
     
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  6. Robfromga

    Robfromga Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

    Interesting. I'm on 600/400 test/npp. Lots of positives, but lost alot off my cut. Are you saying to drop my test? Ive got some tren A sitting around, but not much...don't think it's enough to run for too long.
     
  7. Eman

    Eman Member

    It tends to make me a bit watery too but not really that bad... Depends what my diet looks like really.

    Bold is probably a good option to get the effects you're looking for. I like Anadrol too, it really has never given me the water that some people talk about. You could consider Anavar maybe?

    Conversely, even though it's a classic, dbol is probably something to stay away from for you huh?
     
  8. Holistic

    Holistic Member

    I've read and read about test being a weaker steroid with lots of sides, so I'm trying lower test... If you like Tren it's great to minimize NPP bloat. I would add another compound before u lower test. What ai u running and how are your gains?
     
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  9. penche

    penche Member

    Brotha I wish i could handle bold, my anxiety goes through the roof and BP too. Really fing weird cuz I tolerate tren much better. I wanted to try that 1 test Cyp but heard it just like bold but much more powerful. I'm dropping my test and gonna include more cardio along with Tren. No more NPP for now. My friend swears by NPP with low test for vascularity but not sure if I could muster the balls to do it. Too much sexual activity lol. Guess viagra may have to come to the rescue idk maybe one day lol
     
  10. Robfromga

    Robfromga Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

    adex. .25 eod which has historically kept me in check. Gains are badass. Stepdaughter didn't see me for 4 days, came home with "OMG you got way bigger !" Strength is up also.
     
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  11. Eman

    Eman Member

    If you have your e2 under control, you shouldn't have any sex related issues IMO.

    When I ran NPP, I was at 1:1 ratio and didn't run a lot more test than I normally do... But I had the most out on control sex drive ever. I'm not even going to elaborate just how fucking sexed up I was other than to say I was partially glad when the cycle was over because my brain was fucking fried from sex... NPP was really the only thing different about that cycle too. I know a guy that runs over a gram of deca and only about 200mg of test and loves it.