Ordering

Disturbed93

Junior Member
So when I go to place an order with a source, do I just give them my address? Obviously you don't include your name right?
 

biggerben69

Member
So when I go to place an order with a source, do I just give them my address? Obviously you don't include your name right?
These are important questions you ask. I think its just as important to understand "Why" you will or won't do something in the ordering process.
I'd like to see sources train their customers how to properly go about the ordering process. Educated customers are going to be better customers.
I think the easiest way to go about it would be in an email from the source to the customer when replying to the members initial contact.
An attachment or a "Copy & Paste" job after answering specific questions the member had. The source would be doing a service the entire Community would benefit from.
So I have to put my actual name on the package? Do you guys use fake names? lol sorry first time doing this
There comes a time in the ordering process when you have to take your share.of risk in this thing we do. If you aren't willing to take any risk at all there's nothing wrong with you. Its better to realize it sooner than later.
Its a federal crime to use the USPS
to facilitate your getting the aas you want circulating in your bloodstream. Its serious business. The decision you're making to order aas could negatively effect the rest of your life.
There is a %(albeit a small%) of guys who are going to be forever labeled as "Convicted Felons" after ordering aas online. Its a statistical fact that will only change if aas are legalized. That's not going to happen in our lifetime so the best we can do is to decrease the odds of being included in the group of guys who get arrested and convicted for ordering and subsequently possessing aas.

Had the OP not had the nerve to create this thread and ask questions its clear he would made some decisions that would have made the odds of him being in the % of guys busted exponentially greater with each wrong move he makes.

Disturbed...the deal with the name you have your pkg of aas addressed to and if it has to be yours or not is this; The name the pkg is addressed to needs to be a name that is associated with(receives mail regularly) the address its being shipped to.
Some mail carriers are more involved with the goings on happening on their route than they should be.
If you make up a name(Domimic Zeigler) and have the order coming to your parents house who have lived in the single family home that Mr and Mrs Smith have lived in for the past 35 years in the upscale town of Wellesley, MA. you may not get your pkg.
Also, the house 4 doors down from your own that has been vacant for the last 18 months is not where you want to have your pkg delivered. I can almost guarantee you that you're not getting your order, and rightfully so.

***What you can do if you want to increase your odds of remaining free of prosecution where your gear ordering is concerned is this; you will, in all likelihood, be receiving your order via the USPS Priority Mail which is usually 2 to 3 day service.
If you are ordering from a new source be sure to ask them...so the answer is in the back of your mind..if they would ever require a signature for delivery.
They absolutely should not. Its not a service that is included in Priority 2-3 day Mail service. The shipper would have to request that a signature be required and pay an additional fee.
Knowing this, if your mail carrier knocks on your door and asks for your signature in order for you to take possession of your pkg simply refuse to sign and say you aren't expecting any pkg.
Chances of you being asked to sign are slim and your order will either be in your mailbox or if it doesn't fit be left next to your door or where your carrier has left pkg's in the past.
You will be anxious to dig into your pkg. DO NOT OPEN! Write "Return To Sender" clearly on the box and leave it next to your front door or if you have a nosey spouse on a shelf someplace.
If you are going to experience a CD(controlled delivery) its going to most likely happen within the first couple of hours.
If its a particularly large order LE may wait a bit to see if someone might come pick up the gear or see if you leave to deliver the goods someplace. They may follow to see where you go and in doing so bring in an accomplice or 2?
They may kick your door in 5 minutes after delivery.
It is a fact that guys who have NOT opened a pkg of aas that was delivered USPS have escaped being arrested and or prosecuted. Plausible Deniability is real and is a tool that you may be able to use when you find yourself in your Living Room with a Postal Inspector and fbi, hls, or dea agents.
If you find yourself in this unenviable situation stay calm and politely refuse to answer any questions. Respectfully ask to speak with an attorney before answering any questions. You will have most likely just been Mirandized and given the option to remain silent. Exercise this right and keep your mouth shut. There isn't anything you can say that is going to help yourself. NOTHING. LE is not your friend and not there to help you in this situation. They are there to ruin your life and take your freedom if it is at all possible. You probably will want to explain things away for some reason? I read about it every time(nearly) i read about a CD. The guy admits to ordering the gear and is anxious to jump online and show LE where they got the brilliant idea to begin with.
Stay calm. They may make you uncomfortable and sit your ass in a jail cell for a few hours walking by once in a while to let you know that you're looking at 20years unless you want to help yourself and be honest.
LE can and will lie to you about whatever they want to try and get you to incriminate yourself.
You just may get out of that situation if you follow my suggestion.
**The Controlled Delivery will include a search warrant to see if they can find items to support their assertion that you ordered the gear. This includes but is not limited to gear that you have in your home before the pkg, Syringes, your desk top or laptop powered on logged on to the Underground on a site called meso(thinksteroids).
Be sure your phone locks when you aren't on it. They will have their noses buried in your phone if they can access it.
Yes, put your real name on it. Wrong name and address looks more suspicious than your actual name and address matching up.
Don't tie your screen name to your order in any way. Ordering email shouldn't be disturbed93@.......
I'll let someone explain why the above is important. If its not explained by morning I'll get at it. Gotta run...
 

Sp2.0

Member
These are important questions you ask. I think its just as important to understand "Why" you will or won't do something in the ordering process.
I'd like to see sources train their customers how to properly go about the ordering process. Educated customers are going to be better customers.
I think the easiest way to go about it would be in an email from the source to the customer when replying to the members initial contact.
An attachment or a "Copy & Paste" job after answering specific questions the member had. The source would be doing a service the entire Community would benefit from. There comes a time in the ordering process when you have to take your share.of risk in this thing we do. If you aren't willing to take any risk at all there's nothing wrong with you. Its better to realize it sooner than later.
Its a federal crime to use the USPS
to facilitate your getting the aas you want circulating in your bloodstream. Its serious business. The decision you're making to order aas could negatively effect the rest of your life.
There is a %(albeit a small%) of guys who are going to be forever labeled as "Convicted Felons" after ordering aas online. Its a statistical fact that will only change if aas are legalized. That's not going to happen in our lifetime so the best we can do is to decrease the odds of being included in the group of guys who get arrested and convicted for ordering and subsequently possessing aas.

Had the OP not had the nerve to create this thread and ask questions its clear he would made some decisions that would have made the odds of him being in the % of guys busted exponentially greater with each wrong move he makes.

Disturbed...the deal with the name you have your pkg of aas addressed to and if it has to be yours or not is this; The name the pkg is addressed to needs to be a name that is associated with(receives mail regularly) the address its being shipped to.
Some mail carriers are more involved with the goings on happening on their route than they should be.
If you make up a name(Domimic Zeigler) and have the order coming to your parents house who have lived in the single family home that Mr and Mrs Smith have lived in for the past 35 years in the upscale town of Wellesley, MA. you may not get your pkg.
Also, the house 4 doors down from your own that has been vacant for the last 18 months is not where you want to have your pkg delivered. I can almost guarantee you that you're not getting your order, and rightfully so.

***What you can do if you want to increase your odds of remaining free of prosecution where your gear ordering is concerned is this; you will, in all likelihood, be receiving your order via the USPS Priority Mail which is usually 2 to 3 day service.
If you are ordering from a new source be sure to ask them...so the answer is in the back of your mind..if they would ever require a signature for delivery.
They absolutely should not. Its not a service that is included in Priority 2-3 day Mail service. The shipper would have to request that a signature be required and pay an additional fee.
Knowing this, if your mail carrier knocks on your door and asks for your signature in order for you to take possession of your pkg simply refuse to sign and say you aren't expecting any pkg.
Chances of you being asked to sign are slim and your order will either be in your mailbox or if it doesn't fit be left next to your door or where your carrier has left pkg's in the past.
You will be anxious to dig into your pkg. DO NOT OPEN! Write "Return To Sender" clearly on the box and leave it next to your front door or if you have a nosey spouse on a shelf someplace.
If you are going to experience a CD(controlled delivery) its going to most likely happen within the first couple of hours.
If its a particularly large order LE may wait a bit to see if someone might come pick up the gear or see if you leave to deliver the goods someplace. They may follow to see where you go and in doing so bring in an accomplice or 2?
They may kick your door in 5 minutes after delivery.
It is a fact that guys who have NOT opened a pkg of aas that was delivered USPS have escaped being arrested and or prosecuted. Plausible Deniability is real and is a tool that you may be able to use when you find yourself in your Living Room with a Postal Inspector and fbi, hls, or dea agents.
If you find yourself in this unenviable situation stay calm and politely refuse to answer any questions. Respectfully ask to speak with an attorney before answering any questions. You will have most likely just been Mirandized and given the option to remain silent. Exercise this right and keep your mouth shut. There isn't anything you can say that is going to help yourself. NOTHING. LE is not your friend and not there to help you in this situation. They are there to ruin your life and take your freedom if it is at all possible. You probably will want to explain things away for some reason? I read about it every time(nearly) i read about a CD. The guy admits to ordering the gear and is anxious to jump online and show LE where they got the brilliant idea to begin with.
Stay calm. They may make you uncomfortable and sit your ass in a jail cell for a few hours walking by once in a while to let you know that you're looking at 20years unless you want to help yourself and be honest.
LE can and will lie to you about whatever they want to try and get you to incriminate yourself.
You just may get out of that situation if you follow my suggestion.
**The Controlled Delivery will include a search warrant to see if they can find items to support their assertion that you ordered the gear. This includes but is not limited to gear that you have in your home before the pkg, Syringes, your desk top or laptop powered on logged on to the Underground on a site called meso(thinksteroids).
Be sure your phone locks when you aren't on it. They will have their noses buried in your phone if they can access it.
I'll let someone explain why the above is important. If its not explained by morning I'll get at it. Gotta run...

I'll try and explain it but honestly I would've preferred you did. Your explanations are generally much more detailed then I'm able to do and generally come with first hand examples that shed good light on things.

You don't want your handle tied to your order for anonymity. You don't know who the source is, if he's vindictive, psycho or a catholic priest. If you post an issue to help out the community and it reflect poorly on the source he now has your address to do with as he pleases. Doxing, openly labeled pack or maybe even show up at your door.
May sound overly paranoid but who knows.
 

Disturbed93

Junior Member
Thank you guys for real. So if they ask for signature do a return to sender dont sign. When you said you will want to rip it open you mean leave it for a few hours in case they do a CD? Or only leave it be if it was a signature delivery?
 

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