Penile Enlargement

Discussion in 'Men's Health Forum' started by Michael Scally MD, Apr 19, 2011.

  1. Michael Scally MD

    Michael Scally MD Doctor of Medicine

    Yes, men really can make it longer: study
    Some non-surgical methods for increasing the length of the male sex organ do in fact work, while others are likely to result only in soreness and disappointment, a review of medical literature has shown.
    Yes, men really can make it longer: study

    Surgical procedures, however, can be dangerous and have an "unacceptably high rate of complications," according to the study, published this week in the Journal of the British Association of Urological Surgeons.

    "An increasing number of patients seek urological advice for the so-called 'short penis'," the researchers reported.

    This is true despite the fact that "penile length is normal in most of these men, who tend to overestimate normal phallic dimension."

    A male member -- measured on the dorsal, or upper, side -- can be considered normal in length if it is at least four centimetres (1.6 inches) when limp, and 7.5 centimetres (three inches) when rigid, noted several of the studies evaluated.

    Some allowances, they added, must be made for a man's height and his body-mass index (BMI), which measures deviation from optimal levels of body fat.

    To determine the efficacy and safety of both surgical and non-surgical techniques for so-called "male enhancement," Marco Orderda and Paolo Gontero of the University of Turin in Italy canvassed scientific literature.

    They found 10 relevant studies. Half reported on surgical techniques, performed on 121 men.

    Among the non-invasive methods, tested on 109 subjects, so-called penile extenders that stretch the phallus through traction were shown to be most effective.

    One study reported an average increase of 1.8 centimetres (0.7 inches), while another measured an extra 2.3 centimetres (0.9 inches) in a flaccid state, and 1.7 centimetres (0.67 inches) when erect.

    But the regimen for achieving these gains was arduous: six hours of daily traction over four months in the first case, and four hours every day over six months in the second.

    Another device, known as a "penis pump," uses a manual or motorised pump to create a vacuum inside a hard cylinder sheath, stretching the phallus.

    Six months of treatment, however, "was not found to be effective for penile elongation, although is provided some sort of psychological satisfaction for some men," the researchers said.

    So-called peno-scrotal rings -- expandable or rigid bands that fit around the base of the scrotum and penis -- "might help to augment penile size and maintain erections in men suffering from anxiety", they reported, but only two cases were evaluated.

    Advertisements claiming that another popular technique -- so-called "penile lengthening exercises" -- can add centimetres or inches to one's manhood are unfounded, say Oderda and Gontero.

    Even the methods that did show some increase in length did not result in a gain in thickness, they noted.

    But nor was their shrinkage.

    "It is interesting that no girth decrease was reported with traction therapy, as one would have instinctively thought," the researchers said.



    Non-Invasive Methods Of Penile Lengthening: Fact Or Fiction

    Penile size continues to represent a matter of great concern among men and an increasing number of patients seek urological advice for the so-called ‘short penis’, wondering if there is the possibility of having their penis enlarged. Notably, penile length is normal in most of these men who tend to overestimate normal phallic dimensions. Furthermore, surgical procedures of ‘lengthening phalloplasty’ remain a controversial issue, being characterized by poorly defined indications and an unacceptably high rate of complications as recently outlined by a literature review. In this brief overview we aim to explore whether non-surgical methods of penile lengthening, largely popularized through the media, may have some scientific background.

    Oderda M, Gontero P. Non-invasive methods of penile lengthening: fact or fiction? BJU International 2011;107(8):1278-82. Non-invasive methods of penile lengthening: fact or fiction? - Oderda - 2010 - BJU International - Wiley Online Library

    What's known on the subject? and What does the study add? Penile lengthening methods remain a controversial issue. Surgical procedures of “lengthening phalloplasty” are characterized by poorly defined indications and an unacceptably high rate of complications, as recently outlined by a literature review, while non-surgical techniques are largely popularized by the media but often lack scientific evidence.

    In the literature we found only ten articles/abstracts of studies pertaining to the topic of our review. With our review, we aimed to explore whether non-surgical methods of penile lengthening may have some scientific background. We focused specifically on penile extenders, which among conservative methods are those whose efficacy is supported by some scientific evidence.

    It seems that penile traction devices should be proposed as the first-line treatment option for patients seeking a penile lengthening procedure. Penile size is a matter of great interest among men who are affected by ‘short penis syndrome’ or just believe themselves to have a small penis, even though the dimensions of the organ fall within the normal range.

    Surgical procedures of ‘lengthening phalloplasty’ lack standardized indications and carry a high risk of complications. Several non-invasive methods of penile lengthening have been described, such as vacuum devices, penile traction devices and penoscrotal rings; even ‘physical exercises’ have been popularized through the media. Most of these techniques, however, are not supported by any scientific evidence. We briefly analyse the efficacy and scientific background of such non-surgical methods of penile lengthening. It seems that penile extenders represent the only evidence-based technique of penile elongation. Results achieved do not seem to be inferior to surgery, making these traction devices an ideal first-line treatment option for patients seeking a penile lengthening procedure.
     

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  2. Michael Scally MD

    Michael Scally MD Doctor of Medicine

    Complications of Penis or Scrotum Enlargement Due to Injections with Permanent Filling Substances

    For as long as people can remember, the size of the penis and the scrotum has been a source of worry to men. Through the ages and across cultures, all kinds of means have been used to increase the length and girth of this symbol of fertility, masculinity, and power. This tendency is currently still visible whenever, soon after each introduction of a new injectable filler material for the improvement of contour defects or wrinkles, such a “filler” is also being injected under the skin of the genitals to increase girth.

    Based on their active duration, these injectable filling agents are classified into three groups:

    1. Absorbable or short-acting fillers that are broken down by the body and have an effect for a few months at most, such as collagen and hyaluronic acid;

    2. Semipermanent or medium-acting fillers that can also be broken down but continue to have an effect for 6 months to 1 year, such as crosslinked hyaluronic acid and 8% polyvinyl alcohol;

    3. Permanent or long-term fillers that are not broken down by the body or that contain components that remain in the injected area, such as silicone oil and 4% polyalkylimide. Chronic cellulitis or infections, granuloma formation or excessive capsule formation, and migration of the injected material may occur after injection with such fillers.


    Kadouch JA, van Rozelaar L, Kanhai RJC, Sawor JH, Karim RB. Complications of Penis or Scrotum Enlargement Due to Injections with Permanent Filling Substances. Dermatologic Surgery 2012;38(7pt2):1244-50. Complications of Penis or Scrotum Enlargement Due to Injections with Permanent Filling Substances - Kadouch - 2012 - Dermatologic Surgery - Wiley Online Library
     

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  3. zkt

    zkt Member

    RU bored?
    :)
     
  4. Donzi

    Donzi Member

    I have been saying this 4 years.
    Nitro Xpansion
    GH
    hcg
    MP1
    it really is 2 easy. I swear sum guys deserve a small dick just 4 being fucking Stupid..
    Most important use the fucking thing.
     
  5. I swear all guys have this hidden fetish about penis envy LOL

    Tie a rope around it with a brick attached to other end stand on a edge of a bridge the brick over It will grow littler right off LOL That be $50 dollars ...
     
  6. BBC3

    BBC3 Member

    You sound like you know your biz on this. No I have never seen you say it... So..
    How much would you say a normal male (7 an-a-quail) can add on?

    How much have you successfully added and in how long...?



     
  7. BBC3

    BBC3 Member

    Ok, Still, you are first talking about MircoPenis, which may sound like more of a joke that a real condition. To be clear, the longest strected pecker they considered was less than 3" in length (which I assume is coparable to erect length). Thats a SMALL WILLY.!! Its probably pretty safe to say they were qualifying individuals in that study who were clearly indicative of hormonal issues, thus not having eough apparent androgen activity throughout the body as a whole. So what I am saying is that I would expect them to get a better chance at results rather than someone who had reached normal potential. I did not say "genetic" because their norms may very well be as genetically intended, as the 3" group only gained a 3/4 an inch.

    -Point - you REALLY have to expect that all these patients were "jelging" away at their peckers the whole time which would have skewed the results./ perhaps. Still, 3/4" aint just whistlin Dixie (on the smaller end of the group). note closer to 1/2 inch on the larger side. Still I suspect all the unpublished pulling synergized positively.:D

    Ill give the study the credit it wants, but only for micropenis at this time. Do you have any hcg studys regarding "normal" social segments?:)

    And ODDLY - I can not discount the obvious fact that the smaller group got a lesser gain/ on the surface view. But to compare the numbers percentage effective.: the smaller group gained 30% relative to the larger group gaining ONLY 27% COMPARATIVE. This is important..! Its a small number (3%), but we are talking numbers right? It would indicate that those closer to social norms in Penis length are less likely to benfit....:eek:

    POINTS:
    1. How to they classify "flaccid". And comming from one who knows DEGREES of flacid due to experience with different stimulants/vasconstrictors. I almost inverted my cock once when gobbling ephedrine at the age of 19. I GUARANTEE YOU I could not have stretched that one to maybe two inches. And that is not my normal conditions which are greater. So there can be NO TRUE LINE IN THE SAND with regard to the dfinition of "flaccid". What is the criteria for conditions of this meaasurement? "Allright guy, now pull it out and tug on it 7 times, no more no less - but hold on, we have to measure you palm temp so you are not cheating?![:eek:)] Further, we are reading you mind to see how aroused you are now. You get the point. Which is that I speculate that "flaccid stretch potential" could vary as much as 100% depending strictly on current conditions of many. In fact, thinking about it further, the ENTIRE NOTION OF FLACCED MEASUREMENT IS A FARCE.>!!!. The only true way to Qualify and Quantify results for crtiteria like this is to send them to a porn room and advise them to stroke away with all their might, and then not allow for a test till they determine they are at erection MAX. There can be no other way...:)

    2. With all that said, and with consideration for the nature of the action of HCG, I would suspect that one would definitely have larger "flaccid" conditions while using. So did the test measure while still on? or After? Lets see. Its says at "24 weeks". Therefore you have to assume theyt measure at the end of the last dosing week. These guys would have had a solid two weeks to burn built up in them. So why did they not measure again after all the drug half lives were spent?

    3. The most NOTABLE and credible results that I see in the whole study is the statement "There were no remarkable adverse events related to the hCG treatment." Sadly, and I HATE this Devils Advocate I have turned into (then I look at the Avatar - LOL). This statement says MOUNTAINS. No drug has ever been perfect. I have argured there is no such thing as a "side effect" technically. They are just OTHER EFFECTs of the drug which the manufacturer wishes to downplay, and what medical POLITICAL SCIENCE has deemed acceptible risk for benefit (an ever expanding concept). Therefore, I would speculate that this would mean - THERE WERE NO EFFECTS FROM TAKING THE DRUG...:( Just saying..

    I would like to see more. I do not necessarily discount the physical means of working a cock larger by pulling and pumping. I just suspect the timing is critical, and the risk of negative outcome is too high. If I knew then what I know now, In stead of squeezin, pumping, and punishing my cock when I was 12, I would have been applying a vaccuum.. LOL.

     
  8. MANWHORE

    MANWHORE Member

    The penis should be relaxed when stretching it,
    and I have a tendency to tighten it just as I throw the brick over, so...
    I like to tight one end of a small rope to my penis and the
    other end to a hook with bait on it, then drop it overboard. ..
    Using this technique in fresh water first until the penis gets
    used to a good stretch, then off to the salt water.
     
  9. Michael Scally MD

    Michael Scally MD Doctor of Medicine

  10. zkt

    zkt Member

    Great find !
    So much for the rapid LH receptor D/R: good sized dosage
    "The patients were treated by using a standard protocol of 1,500 IU to 2,000 IU hcg administrated intramuscularly, 3 times per week, for 8 weeks."
    Those are damn significant gains.
    Still think putting the dose directly into the bloodstream is so crazy? What % of the IM injection actually survives intact by the time it binds to the LH receptors?




     
  11. Growth hormone back in the day always helped along with a girl who could suck the chrome right off a bumper..no penis pump needed with her. She sucked so hard one time look.like.my penis had elephantitis
     
  12. biceps72

    biceps72 Member


    don't know about growth hormone but a new and different sexy women that can suck you good and hard will make your cock as big as it ever will get!! this situation will actualy make rubbers so tight you can barely roll them in!
     
  13. LW64

    LW64 Member

    hcg all on its own definitely makes my junk (all my junk) bigger. Every time.

    While it may not be critically important to many women, there are some who like everything to be, well, let's not say 'big', but how about substantial.
     
  14. BBC3

    BBC3 Member

    Truth be told - ALL THE REALLY CARE ABOUT - is the GIRTH of a man's WALLET...

    A real study would be the womans perception of a mans member as is CORROLATES to his bank account. I speculate the cock is both perceived as larger, as well as SUCKED larger...;)
     
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  15. bax

    bax Member

    Hahaha so true bbc so true.
     
  16. Shave your balls and.member can instantly add 1-2 inches lol
     
  17. BBC3

    BBC3 Member

    Come on man - Thats a given these days. WE, are not down with that seventies MUFF-Driven PORN... LOL

     
  18. Michael Scally MD

    Michael Scally MD Doctor of Medicine

    [OA] A Review Of Penile Elongation Surgery

    Penile elongation surgery is less commonly performed in the public sector, but involves a collaborative approach between urology and plastic surgery. Congenital and acquired micropenis are the classic surgical indications for penile elongation surgery.

    The goal of intervention in these patients is to restore a functional penis size in order to allow normal standing micturition, enable satisfying sexual intercourse and improve patient quality of life.

    Many men seeking elongation actually have normal length penises, but perceive themselves to be small, a psychologic condition termed ‘penile dysmorphophobia’.

    This paper will review the anatomy and embryology of congenital micropenis and discuss both conservative and surgical management options for men seeking penile elongation therapy.

    Campbell J, Gillis J. A review of penile elongation surgery. Translational Andrology and Urology. 2017;6(1):69-78. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5313298/
     
  19. Michael Scally MD

    Michael Scally MD Doctor of Medicine

    Davoudzadeh EP, Davoudzadeh NP, Margolin E, Stahl PJ, Stember DS. Penile Length: Measurement Technique and Applications. Sexual medicine reviews 2018;6:261-71. http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.sxmr.2017.10.002

    Introduction - Penile size has long been an important fixation in men’s lives. On the one hand, a smaller penis has been associated with anxiety and apprehension; on the other hand, a larger penis has generally been related to virility and strength. These perceptions predominate during an erection, when penile size is representative of a man’s masculinity.

    Aim - To assess adult penile length and summarize average penile length assessments from the literature; analyze how various urologic diseases and therapies affect penile length and volume; and review how surgical treatments for Peyronie’s disease, penile prosthesis implantation, and radical prostatectomy can affect penile size to appropriately counsel patients seeking such therapies and set realistic goals for patients.

    Methods - To achieve the aim of this review, we analyzed the literature on penile size and volume and how these can be affected by various urologic diagnoses and therapies. We summarize common diagnoses and therapies that can affect penile size.

    Main Outcome Measure - We thoroughly discuss how the aforementioned diagnoses and therapies can negatively affect penile size. In doing so, we allow readers to understand the intricacies of penile size when faced with such diagnoses and therapies in their patients.

    Results - Surgical treatments for Peyronie’s disease, penile prosthesis implantation for refractory erectile dysfunction, and radical prostatectomy for prostate cancer can lead to a decrease in penile size.

    Conclusion - Urologists must recognize that the different therapies they offer can affect a man’s penile size, often negatively. This in turn can lead to poorer satisfaction outcomes in patients.