I tried reasoning with them to no avail. They have too many shills here and too many connections for anything to be done about it.I am upset that this many people have been allowed to be scammed with ZERO repercussions for the source. I understand in the past pharma/basic have produced adequately dosed product but after reading through pages on pages of basics thread,it seems most people are getting ignored or called liars. I have taken an inordinate amount of abuse for trying to stop these guys from taking advantage of other members on here to no avail. We even had a member here post on a different forum that he knew pharma was doing shady business. Here are some links of the situation either getting blamed onto the consumer or the victim themselves getting hammered. I don't care if I get insulted but the truth needs to come out. These guys are as dishonest as they get and if you take the time to read how their pharma representatives treat customers,it is extremely unprofessional to say the least. If you were sold bunk/underdosed please have the courage to come forward. Basic/Pharma need to be held to the same standard as everyone else even if that means refunding the affected members. I DO NOT WANT ANY COMPENSATION What I do demand is that EVERY customer that got underdosed gear gets either a replacement or a refund. It is ridiculous that we are letting this one slide. Is sponsorship money/free gear really worth compromising the integrity of a community that is over 15 years old? Please read through the thread before coming to any conclusion yourself. If you skip reading you are cheating yourself of forming a solid opinion. These are some threads filled with users that were sold garbage/bunk test: More Pharmacom: Test E Pharmacomstore 6 week labs Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store Potential:Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store @DannyP @JayWaWa @Fungi @ZDogg On this thread @Pharmacom Helper offered to send one of these 3 people a vial of test E so that we could send out for testing: Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store I will quote exactly what he said in that thread: "Hm, I have an idea how we can try to find the truth @stayinalive @dmgkm @Bradac2411 Please provide me pictures of your underdosed vials (batch NR, exp.date) if it will be the same for all, we can try to find same date/batch and then send 1 vial to one of you and you will send vial to the Simec (we cover all costs). We can send directly but for most of users it will be not acceptable That's the way to confirm the problem with testE" See the problem with this @Pharmacom Helper is that you want to use a vial of your choice. Just because your vial is good doesn't mean that our vials were good.Frank essentially tried to trick us in order to weasel his way out of the beef.Intelligent people realize this doesn't prove anything. In fact it is fairly obvious that something is going on when so many members are complaining at about the same time. Problem is that everyone is afraid to say something because they don't want to be harassed as I was. Here is where it gets even more icky. @IronJulius had the wonderful idea of posting PRIVATE MESSAGES between us. I noticed he forgot to leave one important part out. Here is the thread: Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store In this thread you can click my pictures and you will see that Julius subconsciously admits to there being bunk gear. He says word for word "So how many got bunk gear" He isn't DENYING there is bunk gear. He isn't SURPRISED there is bunk gear. He knows something is up but has no idea how to handle the situation since he really has no idea what went down. People got bunk/underdosed gear and the one that is taking the beating is the consumer. If they are so honest and upstanding why are they ignoring all the members that got sent bad gear? This is not acceptable from anyone on here. Anyways I am willing to answer any questions regarding the situation with these guys. They simply do not want to own up to the fact that they may have produced a bad batch,or that they have been selectively scamming members for god knows how long. It isn't right that these guys get away with stealing thousands of dollars off the meso members back.