Discussion in 'Security, Privacy & Anonymity' started by pumpingiron22, Sep 11, 2014.

  1. pumpingiron22

    pumpingiron22 Member Supporter

    Too many signups shut down NSA-proof email service ProtonMail in three days

    Aviva Gat | On May 19, 2014Internet

    The Geneva-based encrypted email service launched in beta on May 16. Within 60 hours, so many people signed up that its servers maxed out. It’s now looking to increase capacity and will reopen for signups soon


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    Credit: ProtonMail

    With the recent NSA scandal in the U.S. and the censorship of websites such as YouTube in Turkey or Whatsapp in Iran, people around the world are all hungry for more secure internet access.

    Maybe too hungry, as an overwhelming response to ProtonMail, a fully secured and encrypted email service, completely maxed out the email’s servers just three days after its launch. ProtonMail launched in public beta on May 16, allowing users from anywhere to create email accounts that are fully encrypted and NSA proof. Three days later, on May 19, ProtonMail announced it was temporarily closing its beta signups until it could expand its server capacity and improve its security.

    “When we launched ProtonMail, we did not anticipate that there would be so much interest in our service,” ProtonMail wrote on its website. “We thought we had enough resources in place to support over 1 month of user signups. Never could we have imagined that we would hit that limit in around 60 hours.”

    ProtonMail is now going through a full security audit and awaiting those results. It is also looking for additional developers to help build the platform for wide use.

    “To our current beta users, we thank you very much for taking the time to try out ProtonMail and giving us your suggestions,” ProtonMail said. “We also appreciate your bug reports so you should also keep those coming! As we are still in beta, bugs will inevitably come up, but we promise to continue improving ProtonMail and that is not possible without your help and support.”

    Future users can reserve a username while waiting for the time when the email service will again be available for wide use.

    Fully encrypted, fully secure

    ProtonMail is completely free and works on smartphones and tablets as well. Because of end-to-end encryption, all data is already encrypted by the time it reaches the ProtonMail servers, so even they can’t read your emails. (Goodbye targeted ads like what we see on Gmail!)

    The platform was founded in summer 2013 byCERN (European Organization for Nuclear Research) scientists Andy Yen, the systems administrator and a Harvard and CalTech trained physicist; Jason Stockman, the front-end developer who previously worked for Epson, 3M, Versace and the International Red Cross; and back-end developer Wei Sun, an MIT-trained physicist who built the software for AMS Collaboration. Early hackathons for the platform took place at the famous CERN Restaurant One and it was further developed at MIT in Boston.

    While the founders are centered in the U.S., ProtonMail is headquartered in Geneva, Switzerland, due to the country’s privacy laws. According to ProtonMail, EU and U.S. privacy laws have many of the same surveillance directives that can allow for gag orders that can prevent individuals from knowing they are being investigated or under surveillance.

    Switzerland, which is not part of the EU, has very different privacy laws, that require targets of surveillance to be informed as soon as possible. Also, all surveillance requests must go through the court system in Switzerland and any international requests for information must also hold up under Swiss law. (Same reasons why Swiss bank accounts are known for being the most secure.)

    “As our users from China, Iran, Russia, and other countries around the world have shown us in the past months, ProtonMail is an important tool for freedom of speech and we are happy to finally be able to provide this to the whole world,” ProtonMail wrote when it launched the service.

    Too bad its servers weren’t exactly ready for the whole world. But we hope they fix things fast at ProtonMail, as privacy seems to be the thing people are missing these days.
  2. Millard Baker

    Millard Baker Member

    I just received my beta invitation to check it out.
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  3. pumpingiron22

    pumpingiron22 Member Supporter

    @millard im jelly!
  4. Oregonstrong

    Oregonstrong Member

    Me too! I put my reservation in long ago but this is the first news to me of the launch.
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    MANWHORE Member

    It seems like something NSA will be interested in
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  6. pumpingiron22

    pumpingiron22 Member Supporter

    How's the proton Millard?
  7. Millard Baker

    Millard Baker Member

    It crashes by Tor Browser before I am able to successfully create the secondary password. I am not going to use it with anything other than Tor. I may try it after configuring another browser with Tor; I just haven't got around to it yet.
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  8. Millard Baker

    Millard Baker Member

    German security expert Thomas Roth hacked the supposedly NSA-proof Protonmail in July 2014. He posted a video demonstrating the exploit. He wrote "This is why you should not trust newspaper articles about secure communication". Protonmail has since fixed the security bugs.

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  9. Bender83

    Bender83 Member

    Anyone else using this yet? I got my invite (actually forgot I had even signed up) recently but haven't set up the account yet. Hoping to get some opinions to see if it's worth it or not.
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  10. pumpingiron22

    pumpingiron22 Member Supporter

    I got mine yesterday love it.
  11. Bender83

    Bender83 Member

    I'll be setting mine up soon. I do however wish I would have signed up with a throwaway email address and not my actual addy. I know the proton mail site says that the address you signed up for the invite with won't be linked to the account you create, but it still worries me just a little.

    I was/am also trying to dig up any info on any security flaws w/ proton mail right now. All I have found so far is the one that was posted above, which was from July. That has since been patched and I don't see any new ones so I'd assume that all is good right now.
  12. Colt44

    Colt44 Member

    I've been using it a couple months. It's the only client I use now.
  13. johnnyBALLZ

    johnnyBALLZ Member

    How do I get in on this??
  14. Bender83

    Bender83 Member
    Sign up and wait.

    When I say wait, I mean it too lol. I signed up months ago, and just got the invite a few days ago.
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  15. numbers505

    numbers505 Member

    Thanks! Just got mine too. Appreciate the info.
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  16. stevonov

    stevonov Member

    is there a charge? just got put on waiting list
  17. numbers505

    numbers505 Member

    no charge, just a wait.
  18. dredd09

    dredd09 Member

    My wait finally over as well. Love proton!
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