safest bets for pharma (counterfeit)

Discussion in 'Human Growth Hormone and Peptides' started by rfan2020, Sep 27, 2020.

  1. rfan2020

    rfan2020 Member

    For those who have knowledge of HGH brands and have been in the game for a while, what are the safest and least safe pharma brands as far as likelihood of counterfeit?

    Are any brands more likely to be counterfeit (you've seen lots) and any the there are very few?

    I used to use human grade gear years ago, but the safes bet, ICN, fakes started to float round so I gave up and switched to UG.
  2. lilhawk

    lilhawk Member

    If you're getting a USA made GH such as Serostim, Humatrope, Nutropin, etc. then look for evidence of it having a script on it that has been removed, or has the name blacked out with marker, or torn off. All GH coming from a US pharmacy will have a script on it somewhere. Some boxes of Serostim won't have that depending on how many are picked up at the pharmacy at once. Meaning, 4 boxes might be taped together and only one has a script on it. I've never had any fakes so not sure what they'd look like. If buying pharma from overseas obviously it won't have a script on the box.
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    Serostim, Humatrope, Saizen, Genotropin would have a script probably on the box. But I don't think pharma grade is worth the extra expense and bullshit
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  4. lilhawk

    lilhawk Member

    It’s really not that expensive anymore and compared to generics well worth the extra money. Everyone is different, some like generics. To me no comparison though. Only ones that really were decent generics were the Greys from PD
  5. hghlover

    hghlover Member

    People are getting 500 IGF 1 readings off generics like 5 iu meditrope.

    Despite this, pharma is still in another league? I'm honestly asking, hsve only tried generics
  6. lilhawk

    lilhawk Member

    Yeah it is. IGF scores are not the end all be all as to how well GH works. I remember Riptropins used to give sky high serum and IGF numbers, and all they really did was give a shit load of water retention for me. Meditropes gave me a ton of water retention and just a crappy look as well. I've used most of the popular generics over the years.. Thanktropins, Novotropins, Riptropins, Greys, Meditropes, and none compare to what Serostim, Humatrope, etc do. The closest were the Greys I used to get from PD, which were supposedly Ansomone unlabeled. Whether that is true or not, who knows. The chinese will counterfeit anything, and do anything to make a buck. If you have the chance grab a 72iu pen of Humatrope, take 3iu per day and judge for yourself which is better. The answer will be clear.
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  7. MuscleFreak

    MuscleFreak Member

    Agree 100% ,i had same experience... with generics u also get high igf but who knows they can boost that with some peptides..i also hold more water with generics...with pharma different better look to the physique and fat loss, without any cardio or deficit easy to have six pack year round
  8. Cashton

    Cashton Member

    Check out the optitropin grey tops, tested at 99.24% I believe, /w no dimmer.
  9. Spikee

    Spikee Junior Member

    Hey where can i find those?
  10. Cashton

    Cashton Member

    Go checkout the underground section we have here. They have an optitropin USA domestic thread, and a Canadian domestic thread, I’m Canadian so I use @Opti-Canada , I believe they’re is also an Opti EU.
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  11. stone988

    stone988 Member

    Yup those Chinese, with those mysterious peptides and substances that fool IGF scores. Must be really secret and cheap to make, test and develop, so cheap that its cheaper then real HGH which can be made for about 25cents an IU. Also not one person ever found this substance in a vial that was tested. I wounder how they do it, must be really secret. I got to go smoke some more weed see you guys later.
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  12. lilhawk

    lilhawk Member

    Why would I ever check those out when I have pharm grade GH? I'm well aware of tests, and have used the best of generics before and they're nothing like pharm grade GH.
  13. Cashton

    Cashton Member

    Oh sorry I forgot pharma is some special sauce.. my bad.. lmfao.
  14. kertisleman

    kertisleman Junior Member

    Which labs you usually prefer to using?
  15. MuscleFreak

    MuscleFreak Member

    On genotropin at the moment...this musle fulleness and roundness i never get with generics and i do hold lot more water...232 at 5'7 Polish_20201006_123324252.jpg
  16. joorinainen

    joorinainen Junior Member

    How many IU's a day?
  17. MuscleFreak

    MuscleFreak Member

    One pen of genos 36iu is 2 weeks for me,i use it 5 days per week at 3.6IU
  18. lilhawk

    lilhawk Member

    What are you laughing about? You told me to go check out some generic like its something special when its just another generic. Until you have used pharma GH and had the chance to compare the two it's best to just keep your mouth shut because unless you've done that your opinion means nothing. You are right though, Pharma GH is special sauce compared to generics.
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  19. Cashton

    Cashton Member

    Lmao okay, keep on thinking that!
  20. lilhawk

    lilhawk Member

    Like I mentioned, unless you have used pharma and generic, which clearly you haven't, then you shouldn't be commenting on which is better. That would be like me saying Humatrope is better than Nutropin without having used both to make a valid comparison.
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