Source Check - Ultimate Pharmaceuticals

Yeah, just because it's private doesn't mean SHIT IMO. They just have more security and fewer clients.
Private labs don't have wonderful access to pharma grade raws, they also can under dose gear just as much as the next guy can.
I will say this. I put to much trust into UP and ultimately got burned. Never trust any source 100%.

This..

This is exactly why I'm asking..Thankyou boxcar for having the nuts to put it how it is!

See guys a straight forward answer with no pussy footing about gave me my answer in 1 post and now I'm gone.. Like a fart in the wind...
 
Yeah, just because it's private doesn't mean SHIT IMO. They just have more security and fewer clients.
Private labs don't have wonderful access to pharma grade raws, they also can under dose gear just as much as the next guy can.
I will say this. I put to much trust into UP and ultimately got burned. Never trust any source 100%.
Here here, that is an ultimate shame brother and ultimately it's just the way it is...
 
We all take the risk. Do what you can to mitigate it. Order small amounts, test it, and order as much as you can afford while it's good.

I wish more UGL's would put legit batch #'s, it would help us all.
 
We all take the risk. Do what you can to mitigate it. Order small amounts, test it, and order as much as you can afford while it's good.

I wish more UGL's would put legit batch #'s, it would help us all.
Then you would know if what you received is bunk and entitle you to a replacement or refund. And the source is stuck with unsaleable product. Not a great business model.

On the flip side, they will relabel said product with the "gtg" batch numbers. Then when the word gets out that that batch is bunk, we'll be back to where we started.

Feels like we are chasing our tails. It's fucked up. Smh.
 
Then you would know if what you received is bunk and entitle you to a replacement or refund. And the source is stuck with unsaleable product. Not a great business model.

On the flip side, they will relabel said product with the "gtg" batch numbers. Then when the word gets out that that batch is bunk, we'll be back to where we started.

Feels like we are chasing our tails. It's fucked up. Smh.
I get what you're saying. But, if they're going to lie about batch numbers, they're going to lie about the quality of the gear anyway. That's why we do what we CAN to mitigate it. I actually think UP is a good UGL. They have been in the past, for quite some time. I think they had one bad run, but to be honest, I'd try them again. Shit happens. No one got sick or infections. We pinned some underdosed oils, life goes on.

It sucks, but, what can you do? IMHO this rep/source is still you're best bet.
 
Sorry to here about this lab.. gear was good for a while. Have things really gotten that bad?
 
I get what you're saying. But, if they're going to lie about batch numbers, they're going to lie about the quality of the gear anyway. That's why we do what we CAN to mitigate it. I actually think UP is a good UGL. They have been in the past, for quite some time. I think they had one bad run, but to be honest, I'd try them again. Shit happens. No one got sick or infections. We pinned some underdosed oils, life goes on.

It sucks, but, what can you do? IMHO this rep/source is still you're best bet.

Yeh man if your not in the e.r who cares go for that shit :)
 
Yeh man if your not in the e.r who cares go for that shit :)
I wouldn't say that... But, I genuinely believe UP was sold some bunk raws, didn't test and distributed. I don't think UP tried to fuck anyone over.

The lack of reimbursement is a little shitty, but, what can you do?
 
I got some of their most recent prop and tren A a week and half ago (or so), and it's great! So, who knows what happened in the interim.
 
i have been siting this one out but it is time to speak out, i agree any ugl can get bad raws, but the ugl itself just saying fuck you we dont stand behind our gear and will give no replacements should be unacceptable in anybodys book , i labmaxed my eq , primo, and mast and it all failed , i took all my up shit and through it in the trash where it belonged, up screwed me one time i will never spend my money with them again , on the other hand the reseller i got it from i would not hesitate a minute to buy from him again...
 
i have been siting this one out but it is time to speak out, i agree any ugl can get bad raws, but the ugl itself just saying fuck you we dont stand behind our gear and will give no replacements should be unacceptable in anybodys book , i labmaxed my eq , primo, and mast and it all failed , i took all my up shit and through it in the trash where it belonged, up screwed me one time i will never spend my money with them again , on the other hand the reseller i got it from i would not hesitate a minute to buy from him again...

You mean trying a different ugl/line?
 
I understand things happen in this business so t/a times can get long. I'm fine with that. What I have a problem with is the reseller not even bothering to return an email or PM inquiring about my pack. If it's going to be a long wait, then just say so. Needless to say, at this point I have no idea where my order stands, and that's not the way to run this business. So reseller, how about it? Can I find out where my order stands?
 
It's funny all the guys bragging in this thread at the start and guys begging to get in with it.. And now look... I have said from the start it's no diff from a normal ugl.. Well they come and go..
 
It's funny all the guys bragging in this thread at the start and guys begging to get in with it.. And now look... I have said from the start it's no diff from a normal ugl.. Well they come and go..
You are right in a way. When this lab was truly private and only a handful of members had access it was golden. Then it seemed the doors opened a bit and that as usual is the kiss of death. Glad I saw this coming loaded up and I am happy. So when it was truly private it was great but when the private expanded things change. Not surprised.
 
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