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Wunderpus

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There is absolutely no chance that Serono is overdosing FDA regulated Serostim and absolutely no chance that everybody elses results that completely agree with each other are all wrong and Simec is the only one that is right(there have been other HPLC's done on some of these GH's from other parties as well). So, Simec is wrong, plain and simple!! If I could answer your question on what they were doing wrong, we wouldn't be having this problem right now. But, one thing of note; as you pointed out the Pharmacom test showed a high amount of HGH and buck did a search on some other Simec results on the net and there is a history of really high results.
Makes me a bit concerned about the legitimacy of the tests they do for Anabolic Labs.... If they are saying all your GH is overdosed, who's to say they aren't wrong about AAS? What sort of standards or fail-safes might Simec have in place to prevent this from occurring? Obviously they didn't think anything about the fact they sent out overdosed pharma grade GH results...

Hmmm @Millard Baker
 
Makes me a bit concerned about the legitimacy of the tests they do for Anabolic Labs.... If they are saying all your GH is overdosed, who's to say they aren't wrong about AAS? What sort of standards or fail-safes might Simec have in place to prevent this from occurring? Obviously they didn't think anything about the fact they sent out overdosed pharma grade GH results...

Hmmm @Millard Baker
SIMEC has done a good job with AAS testing over the past year. AnabolicLab hasn't submitted anything other than AAS to SIMEC for analysis. The methods for GH testing are different. I have no insight on this.
 

ECB

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Id beg the differ on dom shipping I think im quicker in that dept. Yes maybe more but faster. Int usually quicker and only 10 bucks more.
I am talking about international as that is what was quoted. 10 days intentional is par for the course. I put an order in with TP and have it in the same time. Nothing special there. Epacket and ems is quick.

Sure for DOM orders it is obviously faster, no shit..lol

To jump in, from cash deposit to product at your door is about 1/7th the time from PD compared to TP... Not hating on TP, it's just facts.

With PD you get faster responses, faster product delivery etc. It's basic economics to know you pay a bit more for these luxuries....

See above. I don't know your experience with TP but every time, international he is fast. Now DOM(reship) it is slow for obvious reasons.
 

muscle96ss

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Makes me a bit concerned about the legitimacy of the tests they do for Anabolic Labs.... If they are saying all your GH is overdosed, who's to say they aren't wrong about AAS? What sort of standards or fail-safes might Simec have in place to prevent this from occurring? Obviously they didn't think anything about the fact they sent out overdosed pharma grade GH results...

Hmmm @Millard Baker

AAS is a completely different procedure, so no way to really know. I would recommend sending a sample from the same vial to Simec and another lab and see if they come back the same. I am still working with the owner at Simec to rectify our issue, but he has been in the hospital so things have been stalled for the time being. I don't believe there is any malicious intent on their part and I am certain that they truly believe they have done nothing wrong. They also have the proper equipment/technology to give accurate results. So I am not sure if the error is in the procedures somewhere or technician error. Hopefully eventually it will all get sorted out.
 

rpbb

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Makes me a bit concerned about the legitimacy of the tests they do for Anabolic Labs.... If they are saying all your GH is overdosed, who's to say they aren't wrong about AAS? What sort of standards or fail-safes might Simec have in place to prevent this from occurring? Obviously they didn't think anything about the fact they sent out overdosed pharma grade GH results...

Hmmm @Millard Baker
considering we haven't actually seen the simec results, there's no way to tell the validity of anyones statements.
 

muscle96ss

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considering we haven't actually seen the simec results, there's no way to tell the validity of anyones statements.

The Simec results were posted in the same results as the Janoshik thread towards the end of the thread. There is also a link to the raw data with all Simecs notations as well(in German).
 

muscle96ss

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The Simec results were posted in the same results as the Janoshik thread towards the end of the thread. There is also a link to the raw data with all Simecs notations as well(in German).

Veterans Supply 12.3IU (4.1mg) 98.7%
Somastim 28.3IU (9.43mg) 98%
Kalatu Black 15.3IU (5.1mg) 96.1%
TP's Black no batch# 19.6IU (6.53mg) 94.5%
HGHman Yellow 19.5IU (6.5mg) 91.5%
TP's Black Batch#10 23IU (7.67mg) 97.5%
TP's Grey 13.8IU (4.6mg) 99.1%
Serostim(6mg) 22.6IU (7.5mg) 99.6%
Kalatu Green 17.9IU (5.97mg) 96.4%
Toraxx Red 19.5IU (6.5mg) 97.1%
6F White 18.3IU (6.1mg) 97.4%
 
I am talking about international as that is what was quoted. 10 days intentional is par for the course. I put an order in with TP and have it in the same time. Nothing special there. Epacket and ems is quick.

Sure for DOM orders it is obviously faster, no shit..lol



See above. I don't know your experience with TP but every time, international he is fast. Now DOM(reship) it is slow for obvious reasons.

And I with Int I am fast too. There is no dif in the int side of things between tp and I. Now with dom yes there is. Im not as big as him and don't have the volume like he does so you will more than likely get ur dom orders much quicker.:) My communication is superior to TP also. Just listing facts.
 

DOMS4DAYS

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And I with Int I am fast too. There is no dif in the int side of things between tp and I. Now with dom yes there is. Im not as big as him and don't have the volume like he does so you will more than likely get ur dom orders much quicker.:) My communication is superior to TP also. Just listing facts.

I almost replied this same thing to WP yesterday. I have to agree, PD's communication is really second to none. Always a quick reply and always a follow up with tracking. I have no experience with TP or HK. Have been with PD since I started using GH and do not have any reason to go anywhere else.
 

ickyrica

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I almost replied this same thing to WP yesterday. I have to agree, PD's communication is really second to none. Always a quick reply and always a follow up with tracking. I have no experience with TP or HK. Have been with PD since I started using GH and do not have any reason to go anywhere else.
Agreed ^^^^

One time purchase so far but not a complaint on any level. Not a review on product, just customer service. Not saying anything negative about HK or TP as well, no experience to speak on their services.
 

rutman

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Looks like my serostim hookup is playing out..... I hope these are comparable. Anybody done both and how do they compare, iu to iu?

Looks like PD is a little higher than TP, but shipping time and communication is much better, which means a lot.

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biggerben69

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Looks like my serostim hookup is playing out..... I hope these are comparable. Anybody done both and how do they compare, iu to iu?

Looks like PD is a little higher than TP, but shipping time and communication is much better, which means a lot.

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I've only used serostim. You have the opportunity to compare for yourself. It has to sound like I'm pushing PD if you read my posts referring to him. I'm not. He's simply that good.
I know long time gh users who have used virtually every generic and most pharmacy versions of gh who are stoked to have PD on the scene.
Hyges are just coming back and are going to be available. This comes right from HK. PD may make them available, from what he has said elsewhere. They had a big following. Why switch up? The stuff PD pushes has all the guys I know happy.
Remember, it's not the color on the flip tops or the name of the gh you have..it's the source. If your generic gh didn't come from HK, TP, or PD...you're rolling the dice. All 3 get from the same spot in China. All 3 guys are tried and true.
 

rutman

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I've only e

I've only used serostim. You have the opportunity to compare for yourself. It has to sound like I'm pushing PD if you read my posts referring to him. I'm not. He's simply that good.
I know long time gh users who have used virtually every generic and most pharmacy versions of gh who are stoked to have PD on the scene.
Hyges are just coming back and are going to be available. This comes right from HK. PD may make them available, from what he has said elsewhere. They had a big following. Why switch up? The stuff PD pushes has all the guys I know happy.
Remember, it's not the color on the flip tops or the name of the gh you have..it's the source. If your generic gh didn't come from HK, TP, or PD...you're rolling the dice. All 3 get from the same spot in China. All 3 guys are tried and true.

Thanks BB! I've def been doing my research, knowing my deal on the serostim wouldn't last forever. So from what all I've gathered, there's only 2 reliable places to get the generics from....PD and TP. I'm probably going to go with PD, at least for this first order. I'll run out of serostim in a month, so I'll post up a comparison after I start on the ones from PD.


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Seve

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A little off topic ,but I tried to get info on Candian peptides, or Zphc. What do you think those are something like relabed gray tops at a premium.
 

biggerben69

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A little off topic ,but I tried to get info on Candian peptides, or Zphc. What do you think those are something like relabed gray tops at a premium.
They are definitely generics from China and most likely not from the factory that Homer, TP and PD get from.
The reason you want to get generics that originate from these guys is because of the constant testing they do and the relationship they have with that factory and the relationship they have with our Community. They stand behind the product.
Every source says this...these guys have proven they do.
 

Evom1

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Does anyone have experience with TP international? Curious what the TA looks like. Anyone willing to pm me what they've seen for ta on international from him?
 

Littleharoldeh

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Veterans Supply 12.3IU (4.1mg) 98.7%
Somastim 28.3IU (9.43mg) 98%
Kalatu Black 15.3IU (5.1mg) 96.1%
TP's Black no batch# 19.6IU (6.53mg) 94.5%
HGHman Yellow 19.5IU (6.5mg) 91.5%
TP's Black Batch#10 23IU (7.67mg) 97.5%
TP's Grey 13.8IU (4.6mg) 99.1%
Serostim(6mg) 22.6IU (7.5mg) 99.6%
Kalatu Green 17.9IU (5.97mg) 96.4%
Toraxx Red 19.5IU (6.5mg) 97.1%
6F White 18.3IU (6.1mg) 97.4%

So with this I can assume for generics tps greys are about the best bet? Thought the blacks were the next best thing with generics.
 

fodsod

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Posted up some blood work over in the labs section that include IGF-1 from 5ui ED of PD's greys. Went from 180 to 361 in 5 months. Not bad for generics.
 

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