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The Lobster International,EU and UK domestic HGH,PEPTIDES and Turkish Pharmacy
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AlexDavis43
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In that case, I don't think I've ever had lyophilized pharma peptides. Pharma GH (cinna & geno) in pens, and all other non-GH peptides from UGL lyophilized (mostly vacuum but not all).
I'm getting the sense that vacuum is not a big deal, unless maybe for long-term storage (still unknown)
TheLobster
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Hello
Vacuum is commonly used to protect products from external factors and maintain their stability. However, in the absence of vacuum, as long as proper storage conditions are met, it does not significantly affect the quality of the product
It seems that a few people here think I’m blowing air with my mouth and closing the vial . Ok
Thank you
RekTest
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Ah, taking trade secrets from qsc I see.
TheLobster
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You are more than welcome to visit our manufacturing facility. I will cover all your costs, and you can share your ideas here. Let me know if you’re interested. January possibly
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bighunanballs
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Forgive my ignorance here, does Pharma HGH come as lyophilized/freeze dried powder? The absence of vacuum is a concern for long-term storage if you are a hoarder. Unless lobster is using an inert blanket gas to fill the head space of his vials then vacuum is usually the cheapest easiest method of eliminating oxygen for shelf life
bighunanballs
Well-known Member
Does that mean you buy the GH raws from China and then lyophilize it in your own facilities in Turkey?
Not having a vaccum in the vials could in principle lead to faster degradation through oxidation (unless the vial contains an inert gas like nitrogen). See below. So this should be of concern to customers.
Oxidation of therapeutic proteins and peptides: structural and biological consequences - PubMed
Oxidation is a common degradation pathway that affects therapeutic proteins and peptides during production, purification, formulation, transportation, storage and handling of solid and liquid preparations. In the present work we review the scientific literature about structural and biological...pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
This is 100% accurate. If these vials are not filled with an inert blanket gas or stored under vacuum then the atmospheric oxygen present when bottling will degrade these peptides fast. I don't think anyone has Jano tested analytics on improperly finished vials, but theoretically from other industries we see degradation of 5-10% within the first 2-4 weeks and 30-50% in a few months time ( not apples to apples but this is typically lyophilized water soluble THC and cannabinoids) I would definitely not be interested in a non-vacuumed vial of HGH If I was planning on storing it for longer than a couple months
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TheLobster
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There is no air inside the vials. If you create a vacuum of 2000-3000 Pa in the machine, the vials will not contain air, but they also won’t have a complete vacuum
The machine does not apply top pressure with 5-10 Pa. Instead, the machine applies top pressure with around 2000-3000 Pa
Also tonight will share results
GCMS screening
LCMS screening
Heavy metals screening (As, Cd, Pb, Hg)
Endotoxin analysis
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