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Too short pin = PIP FROM HELL?!?

SmallsMalone

SmallsMalone

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I changed the type of TRT test I use to Prop - where I have to inject EOD instead of 1 time a week like CYP. I injected the prop into my ass first and it was fine - no PIP. The stuff is good. I then decided to use my thigh so I don't turn my ass into swiss cheese.

Every time I have ever injected my thigh with a 1" needle it has hurt like fuck. So I decided to use a thinner gauge to see if that would make a difference. I used 27 gauge, BUT I didn't have any 27 gauge 1" needles.. the best I had was 1/2". I thought, what the hell, I don't have very fatty legs (I am at 14% BF). The injection went fine - no pain. No pain that night either.

The next day I can't even put weight on the leg, it hurts so fucking bad. It brought pain to the point of making me puke trying to drive.

Does pinning too shallow cause crazy fucking intense pain like this??? Perhaps I hit a nerve or something? I seriously doubt it because I was SOOO shallow, but I don't understand why it fucking hurts so bad. Any ideas?
 
Turns out I followed the advice of a nurse who had no idea what she was doing. I pinned the top FRONT part of my thigh (above the tear drop). Looks like I hit a lymphnode path, and it's leaking fluid. Unlike blood it doesnt clot, so it leaked a bunch until the hole closed. In the meantime the tissue is stretched and inflamed from the extra fluid. Should go away on its own in a few days. Can't train legs for 10 days. Bummer - I'll do my own research from now on. Stupid ass nurse.
 
SmallsMalone said:
Turns out I followed the advice of a nurse who had no idea what she was doing. I pinned the top FRONT part of my thigh (above the tear drop). Looks like I hit a lymphnode path, and it's leaking fluid. Unlike blood it doesnt clot, so it leaked a bunch until the hole closed. In the meantime the tissue is stretched and inflamed from the extra fluid. Should go away on its own in a few days. Can't train legs for 10 days. Bummer - I'll do my own research from now on. Stupid ass nurse.
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Nurses/doctors have limited information esp in regards to AAS and IM injections. Pin on the side of the quad so you avoid the nerves. Imagine standing at attention, pin where your middle finger would be. Also, if the oil is dispersed to the SubQ fat there will be pain :)
 
I use slin pins all the time for quads, delts, you name it , and don't have much pip at all, then again I have never used prop before
 
Usually I have minimal pip from prop. I needed to rotate sites and thought quads would be all right since I have pinned there many times using other gear. The pip was ridiculous. I definitely limped around for a few days and couldnt do shit. Im a bit of a masochist so what did I do ? Pinned the other leg too. Brilliant !
 
I'm thinking you guys are right - hopefully this doesn't cause more damage to the muscle. This morning it's even MORE swollen and I can' walk or sit without a heavy dose of painkiller (Which I am running out of, quickly). I have to head to the hospital for pre-op work for my neck surgery, I might as well drop by the ER just to make sure I didn't really fuck my leg up.

Never. Ever. Pinning. Quads. Again. My ass is the only place that needle will be going.
 
I imagine you wiggled a lot with a needle that thin. Sometimes I have worse PIP with a smaller gauge....
 
SmallsMalone said:
I'm thinking you guys are right - hopefully this doesn't cause more damage to the muscle. This morning it's even MORE swollen and I can' walk or sit without a heavy dose of painkiller (Which I am running out of, quickly). I have to head to the hospital for pre-op work for my neck surgery, I might as well drop by the ER just to make sure I didn't really fuck my leg up.

Never. Ever. Pinning. Quads. Again. My ass is the only place that needle will be going.
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Who doesn't like a good poke in the ass, right?
 
Update: at almost 72 hours the pip is about 60% reduced. After viewing some anatomy, I am pretty sure that this was a case of idiocy on multiple levels from me. Lessons learned:

1) Never pin the front top part of your thigh, even if they really young, hot nurse at your doctor's office told you that was a good spot. She's wrong.

2) Use a 1" pin on the quads. You don't have as low of bodyfat as you think you do.

3) if its a new compound from a new source, select the least likely place to cripple you to try the gear out first. My source confirmed that this is dosed really high, so there is some PIP to be expected.

Basically it was a perfect storm of mistakes: I pinned in the wrong place, I pinned with a pin that was way too short, and so it likely didnt even make it into the muscle at all, and I pinned a new compound from my source that was dosed higher than normal, so I had no idea what to expect PIP wise. Lesson learned.
 
Sworder said:
Nurses/doctors have limited information esp in regards to AAS and IM injections. Pin on the side of the quad so you avoid the nerves. Imagine standing at attention, pin where your middle finger would be. Also, if the oil is dispersed to the SubQ fat there will be pain :)
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Where exactly would a middle finger be while standing at attention? In the US military I curl my fingers at attention. And i know some other countries stand with fingers extended. So this is a vague reference.
 
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