Hi guys,

Just starting in to my 2nd cycle today. I'm sticking with test only again. On my first cycle I was using 250mg amps of test cyp from alphapharma and I was going to get these again but they were all sold out from the supplier I use. So decided to go for the 250mg amps of test enanth from pharmacom (as both of these labs are well respected here in uk).

Anyway, went to pin for the first time this morning and I just couldn't draw any of the oil out of the amp in to syringe (I'm using 23g needles which I used last time and had no issues with whatsoever). I got a brand new needle and plunger and tried again but still nothing. At this point I was getting frustrated at how long I had been playing around with the open amp so I binned it and got a new one which I heated a little, also with new needle and plunger. I managed to get pretty much all of it in to the syringe this time but it was quite an awkward process. I was only able to draw a tiny bit of oil and then had to hold the needle pointing upwards and push the plunger a bit so I could draw the rest of the oil.

Finally having some juice in the syringe I pinned it and tried to inject which was really tough. Had to get my girlfriend to help me push on the plunger as it was too awkward for me trying to force it. Got most of it in but noticed there was still a little test sitting in the blue part at the very top of syringe and most likely in the needle as well. Tried to squeeze the little bit of test left out in to my sink but it wouldn't come out even though the plunger was fully pushed in.

This is pretty frustrating because I don't want to be wasting my prexious gear lol. Has this happened to anyone else before and does anyone know how I can make his process easier. I should mention I used the exact same needles and syringes last time and had no issues. Rear was super easy to draw and pin. Thanks in advance!
 

Savagesteve

Member
Hi guys,

Just starting in to my 2nd cycle today. I'm sticking with test only again. On my first cycle I was using 250mg amps of test cyp from alphapharma and I was going to get these again but they were all sold out from the supplier I use. So decided to go for the 250mg amps of test enanth from pharmacom (as both of these labs are well respected here in uk).

Anyway, went to pin for the first time this morning and I just couldn't draw any of the oil out of the amp in to syringe (I'm using 23g needles which I used last time and had no issues with whatsoever). I got a brand new needle and plunger and tried again but still nothing. At this point I was getting frustrated at how long I had been playing around with the open amp so I binned it and got a new one which I heated a little, also with new needle and plunger. I managed to get pretty much all of it in to the syringe this time but it was quite an awkward process. I was only able to draw a tiny bit of oil and then had to hold the needle pointing upwards and push the plunger a bit so I could draw the rest of the oil.

Finally having some juice in the syringe I pinned it and tried to inject which was really tough. Had to get my girlfriend to help me push on the plunger as it was too awkward for me trying to force it. Got most of it in but noticed there was still a little test sitting in the blue part at the very top of syringe and most likely in the needle as well. Tried to squeeze the little bit of test left out in to my sink but it wouldn't come out even though the plunger was fully pushed in.

This is pretty frustrating because I don't want to be wasting my prexious gear lol. Has this happened to anyone else before and does anyone know how I can make his process easier. I should mention I used the exact same needles and syringes last time and had no issues. Rear was super easy to draw and pin. Thanks in advance!
Not sure what carrier oil they use but I had some galenika pharma one time that was thick af and took forever to draw and pin. Was drawing with a 23 and pinning with a 25. Have any larger gauge needles to draw with? I usually use 18g to draw amps...
 
Not sure what carrier oil they use but I had some galenika pharma one time that was thick af and took forever to draw and pin. Was drawing with a 23 and pinning with a 25. Have any larger gauge needles to draw with? I usually use 18g to draw amps...
Only have 23 and 25 but think I'm going to have to order some 18g because I can't go through this whole cycle like this haha. Pinning will still be a bitch though. Do u think 21g would be ok to pin with or stick with the 23?
 

Iron Vett

Member
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Only have 23 and 25 but think I'm going to have to order some 18g because I can't go through this whole cycle like this haha. Pinning will still be a bitch though. Do u think 21g would be ok to pin with or stick with the 23?

A while back I was low on injection supplies and didn't feel like ordering so I drew and injected an entire 10 week test/tren eod cycle with 21 gauge needles. I even used the same needle to draw both compounds and then inject. It's not that bad.

But normally I draw with a 21and inject with a 23 and have never had any problems drawing and injecting.
 

JohnnyD

Member
I’ve noticed pcom test is slow to draw as the oil is thicker than others. Never really had any major problems drawing it with a 23g though. You can heat it up. Flip the vial upside down and take your time. Inject slowly, don’t try and rush it and or force it
 
Heat a little water in the microwave. Put your amp in it while you are opening pin and preparing site. By the time you are ready, the oil will be warm and much easier to draw and shoot.
 
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