TRT level doses, cutting, and doing higher levels of Test later...

Discussion in 'Steroid Forum' started by Vrilbilly14, Apr 16, 2019.

  1. Vrilbilly14

    Vrilbilly14 Junior Member

    I haven’t started taking any test yet. I plan on starting a low, TRT level dose (100-150mg/week) in the very near future. I have a couple of questions:

    1) I’m currently on a cut for dat summer body. How will the test dose above affect things? Will there be any water weight gains I should be aware of? Anything I may not be considering by starting trt while in a caloric deficit?

    2) In the future, can I up my Test dose to 500mg/week for 8-12 weeks then return to trt level doses without pct? Would PCT still be necessary? obviously, I’d still have aromatase inhibitors in hand if I decide to go this route. But is there anything else I need to consider?

    I know that’s a lot of shit to unpack but I wanna know what Im about to jump into.

    Thanks!
     
  2. k0rkscrew

    k0rkscrew Member

    Hey, first may I ask why you want to go on a TRT dose? Have you had bloodwork and found out you have low T?

    Most ppl will not have sides on just a 100-150mg/week but some may need a low dose AI, good to have on hand.

    In the future yes you could go to 500/week and then just go back to your cruise dose, no pct needed but it still doesnt hurt to get bloods now n then just to make sure.
    Make sure you consider everything if you are going on TRT long term(kids). Lots of info here man, keep researching and take things slow.
     
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  3. Vrilbilly14

    Vrilbilly14 Junior Member

    Yeah, I’ve had bloodwork done. I’m just slightly above the cutoff for clinically low T for my age group (I’m 35). My doc refused to give a script even though, realistically, I’m about as low as you can get and still not be technically in “low t” range.

    I have kids, but I may still put the test with hcg just in case my wife tells me she wants another one in the next few years.

    Thanks for the info
     
  4. Jankauskas

    Jankauskas Member

    This is not the thread I hoped it would be...
     
  5. Vrilbilly14

    Vrilbilly14 Junior Member

    I’m sorry you had high hopes for for newbie and his stupid questions.
     

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  6. Ophydian

    Ophydian Member

    No point in a 4 week blast. You’ll be fucking with your hormones to much. Plus hitting week 4 you’ll finally be feeling the full dosage and money tells me you’ll continue for another few weeks
     
  7. Kindlife

    Kindlife Member

    I dont think he meant just a 4week blast. I believe he said an 8-12week blast. 2-3months long blast not week 8 thru week 12.
     
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  8. Vrilbilly14

    Vrilbilly14 Junior Member

    Yes, that’s correct. Sorry for the confusion.
     
  9. Ophydian

    Ophydian Member

    I can see how I got confused. Today is definitely not reading comprehension day for me.
     
  10. Bigboy727

    Bigboy727 Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

    What where your numbers?
     
  11. Reno

    Reno Member

    Can you post your lab values?
     
  12. Vrilbilly14

    Vrilbilly14 Junior Member

    Total test was 350 ng/dL

    I do t remember my free test or E2 levels
     
  13. Monstar

    Monstar Member

    At that level any clinic will work with you. Your doctor won't because you aren't below the lowest level (and if you are, you are totally fucked) and he likely knows little about this area and isn't concerned about "optimality" for you and more concerened about "liability" for him. No clinic will turn you away at those levels. If you were 700-900...no happening likely but 350 is near bottom.
     
  14. Reno

    Reno Member

    if you are on trt dose no need for pct with just an upped test dosage. you already give yourself synthetic hormone, so natural is suppressed. But you must watch your lab values for e2,lipids and red blood cells. You may need the A.I. and adjust dose accordingly if needed. i propose lab tests every one month! Use NAC supplement(acetylocysteine), is by far the best option for overall health liver and protection. Good luck managing estro!
    If you want another kid you must also consider using hcg, even on TRT doses. In that case you must use it once or twice per week. Search forums , you will find many articles on this.