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What is the official consensus on using GH and eating right after/before?

Discussion in 'Human Growth Hormone and Peptides' started by zerodiddy, Jul 19, 2019.

Which of the below

This poll will close on Feb 19, 2020 at 2:33 AM.
  1. 1

    37.5%
  2. 2

    12.5%
  3. 3

    37.5%
  4. Unsure

    12.5%
  1. zerodiddy

    zerodiddy Junior Member

    What is the official consensus on using GH and eating right after/before?


    3 scenarios, vote in the poll:

    1) Some say don't eat
    : you should take GH fasted 2hrs before/after because low blood sugar will let exogenous GH convert more IGF1 in the liver, eating will spike your blood sugar and make the GH less effective in creating IGF1.

    2) Some say you can eat, WITHOUT any downsides: because it is exogenous GH, it doesnt matter if you take GH with food, exogenous GH isnt impacted by blood sugar levels, only endogenous (natural) GH is impacted, and there are no harmful affects of eating with GH.

    3) Some say you can eat, but WITH consequences: because it can cause diabetes(?) or insulin resistance(?) at a faster rate than you would normally get these effects with long term usage of GH if you eat with it? I don't know which one.


    To me there's never been a single proper answer. It's time to settle it once and for all.


    So the questions:
    1) Which of the above 3 is the most accurate?
    2) Anyone who has always 100% of the time eaten with GH and HAVE TAKEN BLOODS FOR IGF1, can you show me your IGF increasing significantly even with eating? I'm talking about: every single time you pin GH, you will eat/ have eaten within like 30 minutes. I would like to see yourbloods, and if your IGF has still raised significantly from GH, this will disprove the idea that you CAN'T eat with GH.
    3) Answer this question: True or False: It's fine to eat with GH and take metformin to manage diabetes possiblities.
    4) I would like any articles, medical studies, anything with evidence as well, not pure anecdotes without actual experiences or proofs.

    Thank you.
     
  2. J DUGIN

    J DUGIN Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

    I tried eating and taking GH close in time, maybe 30 minutes apart. I did find I retained water and my fasting blood glucose rose.
    I now only take GH on an empty stomach, no food 2 hours before or after use. Most of the time I pin in the middle of the night when I get up to take a leak. No issues what so ever with this protocol.
    Yes, I am old and get up to piss at least once if not twice throughout the night. Lol.
     
  3. zerodiddy

    zerodiddy Junior Member

    But was your igf still elevated when you ate with GH? Personally I cannot afford to take GH on an empty stomach, the timing just doesnt work for my lifestyle, so I want to know. Thanks by the way!
     
  4. Tiredandhot

    Tiredandhot Member

    I do it most of the time fasted, but all times I eat shortly after if I dose at night. Metformin or berberine helps with food. Would love @Mighty-mouse opinion as I know he uses it.
     
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  5. Tiredandhot

    Tiredandhot Member

    With or without food doesn't affect igf1 score. Being on it 2 to 3 weeks at a stable dose determines that. Someone correct me if I wrong.
     
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  6. lilhawk

    lilhawk Member

    Metformin completely takes care of any insulin resistance for me. Fasted glucose was creeping up to 105-110 on 6iu Serostim. 500mg twice per day of metformin and its down to upper 70s. I always try and take my GH fasted 3x per day 2iu per shot.
     
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  7. Mighty-mouse

    Mighty-mouse Member

    I don’t use metformin or Bernadine my fasted glucose is around 95-98 did hit 100 2 test ago though.

    Soon as I wake up I inject 2.5iu with my dose of 100mcg T4 on a empty stomach. I say I eat right after but, thinking about it, it usually is around 45 min to 1 hr after dose. Then I inject 2.5 iu again around 2-4 hours before bed after I eat. The. I have one more snack/meal before sleep.

    My last igf on 5iu split dosing daily on optis treating them as 10iu vials was 707.
     
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  8. stone988

    stone988 Member

    Ok for me If I fuck around and dont eat for 2 hours I will loose weight lol Ive taken hgh in every scenario there is. For me there is really no difference. even spreading shots out all day long like a junkie made no difference. Maybe a slight bit more fat burning on hgh at night fasted but it could be from less calories. Food is more important to me then fasting on hgh. So i take a loaded shot upstairs and take it in the middle of the night. Its really something one needs to play around with for the best results. One another note the body needs 3 things to make igf 1 hgh, insulin and estrogen figure it out!
     
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  9. lilhawk

    lilhawk Member

    I have also taken it about every way imaginable and there really isn't that much of a difference no matter how I took it. It works period. Just get your daily dose in and let it work. I have found that metformin kills my appetite, and all cravings while dieting. Which is a good thing while dieting. I won't take an anti aromatase or anti estrogen ever again. Never had a problem with gyno or excessive bloating no matter what I take, but I feel they are just awful for the body.
     
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  10. MFMC

    MFMC Member

    2 hours fasted for me-- I also pin in the middle of the night. You can always find exceptions but why not follow the majority who have great results from the fasted window?
     
  11. Perrin Aybara

    Perrin Aybara Member

    I try to eat my last meal of the day no later than 6:00pm. Pin 2iu before bed around 9:30pm or so and 2iu in the middle of the night when I wake up, usually 1-3am. Breakfast at 5:30-6:00am
     
  12. tonedproned

    tonedproned Junior Member

    Me personally I'm just thankful that I have some of this compound. I have tried the Genotropin as well as the generics.

    My 1st run with a generic was truly my best run with hgh, every since then I've used additional generics but in all honesty none have compared to my 1st run.

    So I have found myself chasing the generic quality in hopes of finding the same results as again my very 1st run.
     
  13. zerodiddy

    zerodiddy Junior Member

    So you post in my thread, not helping others, not adding to the topic, saying something completely irrelevant, talking to a wall, what?
     
  14. ChestRockwell

    ChestRockwell Member

    If you look at the site's homepage, I believe you may find some articles which cover this exact topic in quite a lot of depth.

    Short answer? It depends upon your goals for using GH.
     
  15. TenPin

    TenPin Member

    At low to moderate doses it probably makes little or no difference.

    Assuming a SubQ injection it takes about a hour for it to start hitting your system anyway and peaks between 3-6 hours after injection. So unless you were planning at injecting at 6am and not eating until late afternoon you are basically eating with the HGH active in you system one way if the other.

    There is probably an argument to wake up , eat and then inject as the food will be clearing your system as the HGH spikes, but there are so many variables to this whole topic that for low doses / ordinary people I’m not sure it makes a huge difference.

    FYI - I’m 2iu M-F same time as breakfast
     
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  16. zerodiddy

    zerodiddy Junior Member

    this makes the most sense, since gh blood levels peak 3-6 hours after pin anyways. so this is the most scientific answer so far
     
  17. Millard Baker

    Millard Baker Member

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  18. ChestRockwell

    ChestRockwell Member

    It is almost like this question has been addressed before or something? :)
     
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