What to stack with Var?

Discussion in 'Steroid Forum' started by Grim, Aug 14, 2004.

  1. #1

    Grim Junior Member

    I have anavar and Arimadex.

    I'm planning to add one of ES's transdermals, any suggestions?

    I was thinking of EQ rather than Test because of previous BPH from andro (3 yrs ago). I've been taking saw palmetto and have had no further problems since but I'm a bit paranoid about running Test now incase it happens again. Hurt like a bastard on the ass neck for about a week!

    Also what kind of pct woud you recommend? Should I add nolva or clomid or both?

    I'm 30, 6ft 5, 205lb, 5 yrs lifting, low bodyfat, hard-gainer, want to add as much lean muscle as I can with as few sides as possible. Not planning on entering any bodybuilding contests, just want to be a bit bigger and more athletic in appearance.

    Any help would be cool,

  2. #2
    joe shmoe

    joe shmoe Junior Member

    EQ would be a nice addition. i recommend test, but if you're against it...you're against it. EQ at 400-600mg/wk with 40-50mg/ED of var will give nice lean muscle.

    pct is a must...just like with any other cycle.

    have a nice day
  3. #3

    Tank01 Junior Member

    what joe said... though I like winny too... but eq is a good option... in fact its my fav roid out there :)

  4. #4

    NDK Junior Member

    If I understand your post right you had BP problems from Andro? This may not be the case at all with injectable test. My suggestion is to get over your fear of injections and add some Test (short ester at first) as a base to your var, or primo if you can find legit primo. IMO transdermal dosing is difficult at best to figure out absorption rates. With that said homebrew transdermal tren has been a popular and somewhat effective addition for the needle phobic.
    Last edited: Aug 15, 2004
  5. #5

    Grim Junior Member

    Thanks for the input. This is the first time I have been able to access the board in the past 3 days, hope the tech problems are sorted now...

    Anyway, I think I will use EQ for this cycle because of its mild nature. I don't want to use winnie because Var is already 17-alkylated and I don't want to over stress my liver first time out.

    NDK: I hear what you say about test as opposed to Andro, I might just leave that for the second cycle as I want a soft approach for the first cycle. Thanks for the advice though, I'll be taking it onboard when it comes to Test.

    How should I structure the cycle if I use EQ and Var? How many weeks and at what dosage?

    Also, how about the pct? I have adex, should I use this throughout the cycle or just towards the end? Should I also add clomid or nolva?

    Sorry for all the questions, but everytime I research this by myself I get conflicting ideas and quite often the dosages and PCT are depended on the drug selection.

    Thanks again!

  6. #6

    cinnabar8521 Junior Member

    Creatine is supposed to increase the effects of the var somehow!
  7. #7

    ronnievanzant Junior Member

    Can anyone else back this up? I'm on var right now and if creating would help, I'll run and get some.

  8. #8

    ddmartin Junior Member

    Yeah Creatine helps alot. I cant rem exactly where I saw it, but Var works on the Creatine system of the body.
  9. #9

    scrappy Junior Member

    This is from a way old t-mag article

    "...It is believed to be one of the best inducers of creatine phosphate synthesis in muscle tissue. However, there are no scientific studies to support this statement."

    Many athletes have reported increased effectiveness of oxandrolone with concurrent supplementation of creatine monohydrate or injectable forms of creatine, such as Neoton 500.

    When used for mass and strength cycles, oxandrolone (anywhere from 0.3 to 0.5 mg/kg per day) is reportedly combined with 500 mg of testosterone enanthate per week and 200-300 mg of either nandrolone decanoate or nandrolone phenylpropionate. Athletes believe this stack is effective in the following way: oxandrolone increases creatine phosphate stores, the nandrolones promote anabolism, and the testosterone enanthate accelerates regeneration and increases aggressiveness. Another common mass cycle includes oxandrolone, parabolan (2-4 ampules a week), and sustanon 250 (2-4 ampules a week)."

    If you are looking to gain weight then add creatine. If you're using var as a weight classed athlete wishing to get strong without much weight gain, pay close attention to how much creatine you use and nix it if you start to gain too much.

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