So I've been running winstrol for almost 4 weeks now 3 days to go. With test of course 750mg a week. Positive- -Cardio is up I can run longer with out feel out of breath so quick -I am shredded I mean shredded I am at 183lb 7% body fat at 5'5 - super vascular you can see vains on my lower abs and shoulders I think it looks amazing but my girl friend doesn't like it Con- -No strength gain what so ever -Joint pain specially in my knees I cannot go up stair with out feeling pain -tendons also feel painfully sore ( I work out each muscle 2x a week one day super heavy next light and high rep.) -everyone react differently but to me it actually interferes with my sleep. I know you will bash me and say it's not the winstrol but it started 4th day after I started winstrol. I know my body I sleep like a baby. -also I've noticed I can't use oral steroids as much no more every time I use anything such as halo/winstrol/dbol/anadrol I get slight discomfort on my lower left back above the hip. Ending result I give it a 7.5/10 Better than anavar but the sides are also x5 worse I won't be using it again ill stick to test/tren/mast cycle I get bigger and the same vascularity with less pain.