Wisdom from another forum

Discussion in 'Steroid Forum' started by RomanMVP, Oct 20, 2018.

  1. RomanMVP

    RomanMVP Member

    K.I.S.S. All newbies read
    Some of you guys are wearing me the hell out with all of these wild and crazy cycles. KISS is keep it simple stupid. I'm 50 yrs old, 240 to 250 lbs and competed for 30 years. I've been lifting and cycling since I was 18 and I swear to god I've never used half of what some of you are wanting to use.

    Is it me or did someone turn on the light to take 18 compounds at once? I've never seen so many posts about some little 165 lb guy wanting to blast 100 mg tren a day plus 300 mg of test EOD plus 30 mg var plus dbol plus drol plus clen plus t3, etc.

    You wanna get big? Learn how to eat and know what you eat. Don't guess.

    Keep your cycle simple. I prefer test as a base. Start low, there is nothing wrong with 200 to 250 mgs test a week. As you progress, you can use more if needed. I see no reason for anyone that is not planning a heavyweight show to take in excess of 1000 mgs a week. You simply don't need it. If you're not growing, you're not eating enough or not training enough. Once you ge the basics going and know kinda what the hell you'r'e doing, then add in some dbol or deca. I love tren but to be honest its not for a newbie. Give yourself some time and put some cycles under your belt before you jump up to an A ticket ride.

    Stop trying to gain 50 lbs a cycle and cut at the same time. They do not go hand in hand. The word off season means, I'm going to get big and fat while I have no shows coming and then I'm going to diet down. You can not and I repeat CAN NOT stay ripped and be healthy 365 days a year. Gain some size, then cut. Its like your car, do you run it wide open every where you go? I hope not.

    My 1st cycle was doctor supervised 250 mgs week of sust. I went from 180 to 205 in about 6 months. Then I ramped it to 500 mgs sust week with 5 mgs dbol per day. Then the 3rd cycle was sust, dbol and deca but at baby amounts. I quickly found out that my body didn't care for deca so I switched to methyltest, etc.....etc.....etc.

    Today at my weight and on TRT I take roughly 20 mgs test and 20 mgs tren a EOD. I could get ready for a show in about 10 weeks and still come in ripped and above 225lbs. A big blast for me would be 500 mgs test a week and maybe 150 to 200 mgs trena week. I take aromasin E3D and 1/2 tab of caber E3D. I don't need clen and I don't need t3 or any of the other crap that seems to be the norm now. Yes I play with gh at 2 iu's a day but thats it.

    I guess my point here is that some seem to be adding in drug after drug after drug instead of putting in nthe work to get where they want to be. Its diet, diet, diet then training then gear.

    BPP
     
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  2. Xragexx

    Xragexx Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

    I applaud your effort, bro but you might as well be talking to a brick wall.
     
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  3. BigNattyDaddy

    BigNattyDaddy Member

    Good read
     
  4. valuum

    valuum Member

    Meh, you'd be surprised. I'm 28 which makes me younger than most members here. The problem with researching fitness is figuring out what info you want to trust. Give me 5 magazines, 3 websites, and 2 forums and I'll find you info that says low reps, medium reps, and high reps are the secret to hypertrophy.

    Even though the type of dumb humor you find at the younger boards (fitmisc, bb.com shit, reddit) fits me to a T that's not really what I look for in this hobby. I respect the stuff I read here. I was thinking of adding tren ace to my first cycle (4 weeks in right now) for the last 6 weeks. Obviously I've read 100 things saying this is a bad idea, but I have that same urge you guys all have to be bigger I guess. Posts like these make me realize though I should take it slow and get everything else dialed in first.
     
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  5. AlwaysHungry

    AlwaysHungry Member

    Doesn’t sound like a bad idea at all idk what’s all the flame for no tren on first cycle
     
  6. RomanMVP

    RomanMVP Member

    But still, the message is very sound, and if it gets some of the younger guys to think twice, it's worth it. And I think there are some young guys who are serious enough to approach BB with a good level of intelligence and maturity to listen to sound advice from older vets.
     
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  7. Turbo charged

    Turbo charged Member

    I like that advice brother very well said
     
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  8. It will fall on a lot of deaf ears, but it's true.

    If you can't gain muscle without steroids, your big three (diet/rest/training) need reevaluation. Steroids are not a substitute for any of those.
     
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  9. Rosconow

    Rosconow Member

    You on pro muscle?
     
  10. PIZZABOY

    PIZZABOY Member

    You grow while you sleep, wether cutting or bulking dictates diet. Good read. Op knows his shit.
    I always wondered why my ford escort didnt go faster when i put Zmax, Sea Foam, 93 octane, STP oil additive, Lucas in all the gearboxes and a K &N. And that dremel bored throttle body with removed. Maf screen.
     
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  11. Ophydian

    Ophydian Member

    I might get some heat for this but I believe this boils down to influence of Millennials. They want the results before putting in the work so In their mind, use as much gear as possible will get them the results in the least amount of time.
     
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  12. BigNattyDaddy

    BigNattyDaddy Member

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  13. Morefyah

    Morefyah Member

    I agree with pretty much everything you have said. Though throwing around all those stats is pretty irrelevant. Don’t get wrong, props on the progress you have made thus far!! I’m 46 and have been cycling for five years. I don’t want to be a body builder nor do I ever want to compete. I’m just in this too look good and live a relatively clean and healthy lifestyle. Great write up though!!
     
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  14. Xragexx

    Xragexx Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

    I agree with everything you said 100%. I feel a lot of people approach the AAS with an addiction mentality. More is better and they can never get enough and have to up it each cycle because they’re chasing the gains from their very first cycle just as I always chased my very first high with methamphetimines.

    In my wee 2 years here I’ve watched people go from “OMG, you are running a 20 week cycle!?!? You’re going to die!!!”

    To the present “I blast 4 grams 8 months, cruise 2.5 grams for 4 months..”

    “Way to not go over board littleJohn44!”
     
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  15. Xragexx

    Xragexx Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

    I agree with everything you said 100%. I feel a lot of people approach the AAS with an addiction mentality. More is better and they can never get enough and have to up it each cycle because they’re chasing the gains from their very first cycle just as I always chased my very first high with methamphetimines.

    In my wee 2 years here I’ve watched people go from “OMG, you are running a 20 week cycle!?!? You’re going to die!!!”

    To the present “I blast 4 grams 8 months, cruise 2.5 grams for 4 months..”

    “Way to not go over board littleJohn44!”
     
  16. RomanMVP

    RomanMVP Member

    That post was taken from BOP.
     
  17. RomanMVP

    RomanMVP Member

    Very well said. Just add water and POOF!! Instant Arnold! But I still say there are some good young folks out there who will listen to reason. I always have hope for the kids to do it right. Just like each generation, you have your wisdom beyond years types, and then you have your idiots.
     
  18. Turbo charged

    Turbo charged Member

    Then put turbos on it
     
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  19. rugerjitsu

    rugerjitsu Member

    I agree with everything stated by the OP, aside from the AI and caber usage. I really think keeping it simple should exclude the use of AI’s and caber, unless you’re having negative sides relating to high estrogen such as bitch tits. I could be wrong, but most the people needing an AI have had prior issues with gyno through puberty.

    For those not competing, a simple testosterone cycle of 250-500/wk is all that’s needed.

    As an older man, I don’t live by that rule, and I throw some different compounds in every now and then, but I keep the doses reasonable. I grapple, and it’s fucking hard on my body...so, I’ve experimented to see what’s helped mainly with recovery and stamina.

    Outside of that, I love masteron...at 300/wk, it gives me that feeling of a 20-30 year old me...high libido, enhanced aggression when needed, and a lift in my overall mood. That’s my uneducated two cents.
     
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  20. valuum

    valuum Member

    Hey, I'm a 28 year old male running my first 500mg test-e cycle. I have adex on hand, I ran 1mg a week for a while but have stopped. I don't have any nipple problems and don't feel anything "off" that I could relate to E. I still have a bit of body fat but more importantly I used to be very overweight, so I carry fat where gyno would be anyways, so it's visually hard to tell.