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Nandrolone Insights: Unique Characteristics of Anabolic-Androgenic Steroids – Part 6

September 19, 2024 by Type-IIx 166 Comments

Nandrolone unique effects

Estimated reading time: 10 minutes

Table of contents

  • Introduction
  • Joint Support
    • Enhanced Collagen Metabolism
    • Increased Synovial Joint Fluid Balance
  • Left Ventricular Hypertrophy
  • Sexual Dysfunction
  • Impaired Learning and Memory
  • Hematopoiesis
    • Blood Boosting
    • Ergogenic
    • Vascularity
  • Conclusion
  • References

Introduction

Nandrolone (17β-hydroxyestr-4-ene-3-one; 19-nortestosterone; 19-nor-4-androsten-17β-ol-3-one; Deca durabolin®; NPP), a member of the androst-4-ene-3-one class of anabolic-androgenic steroids (AAS), is aromatized to estradiol (E2) at 20% the rate of T and 5α-reduced to dihydronandrolone (DHN; 17β-hydroxy-5α-estran-3-one), a weak AR ligand, thus its action in CNS, scalp, and sex tissue is relatively weakened. [1]. [2].

Nandrolone is an AAS that confers particular benefits for joints and sinews by its procollagenous effects, increasing type I collagen deposition, but by this same mechanism inducing cardiac tissue remodeling. [3]. [4]. Nandrolone, too, affects dopamine metabolism unfavorably, by increasing serum homovanillic acid (HVA), indicative of net dopamine breakdown. [5]. This results in unfavorable effects on mood, learning, memory, and sexual function. [6]. [7].

Nandrolone is regarded as a classical anabolic that is suited to bulking phases where the bodybuilder is keen to accrue quality mass. The particular aesthetic aspects of nandrolone’s classical visual look (“three-dimensional,” “lean,” or “quality muscle”) can only be hypothesized to relate to its effects on collagen, perhaps affecting the sarcoplasm of the muscle fiber, enzymatically and in the mode of a reduced aromatization to estradiol (E2). It certainly is particularly hematopoeitic as well, perhaps relating to its qualitative effects on vascularity. [8].

This is the sixth installment in an eleven-part series about the unique characteristics of AAS.

Joint Support

Joints are the nexus at which two bones meet, about which tendons pull muscle, and ligaments connect bone to bone, to move about the joint’s articulation to provide locomotion. Plausible mechanisms for nandrolone’s renowned joint support (e.g., during heavy lifting) are, firstly, increased collagen deposition, and secondly, increased synovial fluid, in joints.

Enhanced Collagen Metabolism

Since fibrous components provide a lattice of pliable support to joint, including tendons, ligaments, and cartilage, enhanced collagen metabolism provides support to the joint. Nandrolone increases matrix type I collagen deposition in tendon. [3]. Type I collagen is associated with bone, tendon, and ligament metabolism. [9]. [10]. Nandrolone likely regulates extracellular matrix remodeling via type I collagen deposition into the soft tissues (tendon, ligament) and collagenous ends of bone (periosteum) in a manner that can be of benefit for joints tasked with heavy lifting in the weight room.

Nandrolone and Type I collagen
Figure 1: Triple helix polypeptide chains of type I collagen comprise muscle, tendon, and bone, and increased type I collagen activity in soft tissues reflects extracellular matrix activity.

Increased Synovial Joint Fluid Balance

Nandrolone activates the renin-angiotensin-aldosterone system (RAAS), increasing angiotensin I-converting enzyme (ACE) in blood, and AT₁-R (angiotensin II) and mineralocorticoid receptor (MR) mRNA expression in the heart. [11]. The classical arm of the RAAS includes angiotensinogen, renin, angiotensin I, angiotensin II, aldosterone, and AT₁-R. [12]. The AT₁-R stimulates water retention. [12]. Likewise, the MR turns on water retention, and is activated by aldosterone – the MR is otherwise known as the mineralocorticoid receptor. Notably, the RAAS, besides regulating water balance, is also involved in regulating connective tissue cell growth, and the metabolism of loose and dense connective tissue and sites of tissue repair. [3]. Joints are comprised of these connective tissues, bone, tendon, ligaments. Nandrolone likely increases synovial fluid balance via the RAAS’s effects on connective tissue growth and metabolism.

Left Ventricular Hypertrophy

RAAS activation is associated with vasoconstriction, cardiac hypertrophy (i.e., left ventricular hypertrophy; LVH), and fibrosis that causes myocardial infarction. [11]. Nandrolone blocks the adaptive cardioprotective benefit of aerobic-endurance training in a model of heart disease, and causes cardiac hypertrophy via increased collagen deposition. [11]. This growth to left ventricle heart tissue is preventable by AT₁-R blockade (losartan) and/or MR blockade (spironolactone), according to this data. [11].

The duality of these effects – on the one hand, joint support – and on the other, left ventricular hypertrophy – is yet another case where the user must weigh the benefit of robust joints to support heavy and voluminous loading versus the harms to the heart, however seemingly invisible and reversible they might be.

Sexual Dysfunction

Nandrolone notoriously causes sexual dysfunction with such consistency that the phenomenon is aptly dubbed, “Deca dick.” Nandrolone increases serum homovanillic acid (HVA) in man, reflecting increased dopamine metabolism (i.e., breakdown). [5]. Erotic stimuli of an audiovisual nature (i.e., pornography) decreases HVA, reflecting increased dopamine activity associated with sexual arousal. [7].

To learn more about how nandrolone affects male sexual function and the nature of dopamine involvement in that, review this author’s article titled Anabolic-Androgenic Steroid Effects on Libido: Part 1: Men.

Impaired Learning and Memory

The neurotransmitter dopamine integrates learning and motivation. [6]. Experimental evidence suggests that nandrolone impairs learning by reducing dopamine D(1)- receptor number in the nucleus accumbens of the brain, part of the striatum. [13]. Similar evidence suggests that nandrolone impairs spatial memory and reduces IGF-I in the hippocampus, or memory center, of the brain. [14]. Interestingly, this same evidence suggests that growth hormone (GH) reverses this effect – it improves spatial memory and increases IGF-I in the hippocampus. [14].

Hematopoiesis

Blood Boosting

Nandrolone is remarkably erythropoietic, meaning stimulatory of red cell mass, or “blood boosting.” [15]. Indeed, it is more potently hematinic than oxymetholone (Anadrol), that has long been used clinically for that effect. [15]. Mechanistically, the effect on red cell mass is understood to occur through stimulation of erythopoietin (EPO) production and red blood cell secretion by the bone marrow, with hepcidin and erythroferrone involvement, implicating iron metabolism in a manner that “pushes” yet further the bone marrow’s production of red blood cells, called erythrocytes. Figure [16].

Nandrolone and erythropoiesis
Figure 2: Nandrolone stimulates erythropoiesis by stimulating kidney EPO production, the liver decreases the production of hepcidin that increases iron availability, all these signals converge on the bone marrow, to increase erythrocyte (RBC) production. [16].

Erythrocytosis, or polycythymia, is the condition that is associated with hematocrit levels above than 54% or hemoglobin above 17.5 g/dL. [17]. Hemoglobin is the binding protein in erythrocytes that binds to oxygen (O₂); and hematocrit is the percentage (%) of blood volume occupied by erythrocytes. Essentially, then, nandrolone particularly enhances the oxygen-carrying capacity of the blood.

It’s important to note that despite theoretical risks for thromboembolic events like heart attacks or strokes, the elevations that occur to hematocrit/hemoglobin in patients treated by testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) have to date never been found to have clinical significance in any randomized-controlled trial; nor have even minor instances, like deep vein thromboses or transient ischemic attacks been observed.

Ergogenic

Through the lens of enhanced performance, hematopoietic effects are beneficial. The potency of nandrolone to oxygenate the blood means that it increases VO₂max, or maximal O₂ uptake. VO₂max is a measure of the absolute quantity of O₂ that can be used at the cellular level by your body’s tissues during exercise. The O₂ demand of exercising muscle relates to the mass of that muscle and exercise intensity, and so by increasing the quantity of O₂ in blood, aerobic capacity is enhanced such that perceived effort goes down and tolerable training volumes go up. Moreover, since aerobic respiration is involved in recovery from training with heavy weights, this unfairly maligned “side” effect of nandrolone might fairly be viewed as a blessing in disguise!

Vascularity

AR is expressed in both endothelial & vascular smooth muscle cells. [18]. Endothelial cells modulation blood coagulation in the vasculature, secreting vasoactive compounds including nitric oxide (NO). Through its rapid nongenomic pathways (e.g., PKA, PKC, MAPK), nandrolone can stimulate rapid vasodilation via endothelium -dependent and -independent mechanisms. [18]. The former results from increased NO bioavailability via AR-mediated eNos activation and release of vasodilatory factors into vascular smooth muscle cells. [18].

Through the lens of enhanced physique, activation of the RAAS and increased red cell mass converge in the vasculature, causing the “vein popping” effect associated with nandrolone. By activating the RAAS to increase blood volume, stimulating erythropoiesis by increasing EPO and iron bioavailability to increase the density of red blood cells that deliver O₂ to the body’s tissues, and by vasoactive effects on the endothelial cells of the vasculature, nandrolone enhances vascularity.

Conclusion

Nandrolone is a bread-and-butter anabolic that gives a unique look for which there is no substitute. It is fairly regarded as an androgen with above average risks for reversible left ventricular hypertrophy and diastolic dysfunction, sexual dysfunction, with some risks for learning and motivation, memory. However, tolerability must always be assessed individually, and balanced against efficacy. Nandrolone’s efficacy for supporting the major joints (synovial ones like the shoulder, hip, and knee) for training with heavy weights, ergogenic effects via increased O₂ uptake, and aesthetic effects on vascularity via increased blood volume, erythropoieisis, and the vascular endothelium, give nandrolone some unique properties that can be leveraged smartly to great effect.

References

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About the author

Type-IIx
Type-IIx

Type-IIx is a physique coach, author, and researcher. Bolus: A Practical Guide and Reference for recombinant Human Growth Hormone Use will be his first published textbook, anticipated for release in early 2023. Ampouletude.com will be Type-IIx's base of operations for coaching services and publications. Type-IIx is proud to be a contributing writer to MesoRx, his home forum, where he is a regular poster.

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Avatar of sneak007 sneak007 Sep 20, 2024 #1

*round of applause*

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Avatar of Mr_Fusion Mr_Fusion Sep 20, 2024 #2

Much appreciated!!

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R RandallFlagg Sep 20, 2024 #3

I must say this is a much better representation of the pros and cons of the compound compared to some of the most popular articles that pop up even on Pubmed.

My take away: stay away if you're an out of shape fat ass and/or not really bulking up for real bodybuilding (yeah, that's the simpleton breakdown...I get many people use it safely-ish).

Great article!

P.S. where are the instructions on what doses I can run on my TRT+ cycle....lol (yes, that's a joke).

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B BigNattyMcGee Sep 20, 2024 #4

Another home run @Type-IIx . I was under the impression that Nandrolone, especially NPP, could be viewed as "Tren Lite". If ones tolerability of Tren is low, then Nand could be a substitute, though much less powerful.

Having reviewed both articles, I no longer believe this to be the case. It appears that they are two completely different compounds with two completely different set of pros/cons.

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Avatar of OldGHGuy OldGHGuy Sep 20, 2024 #5

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Excellent article

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Avatar of eryximachus eryximachus Sep 20, 2024 #6

Very informative. I did not know nandrolone interfered with dopamine to the point it lowered it.

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j jedbartlet Sep 21, 2024 #7

Great article, I wasn’t aware of nandrolones cardiac interactions until reading this. This might explain my last run with it.

I’ve ran up to 700 deca before but haven’t tried it in a few years. Added 100mgs of NPP to a 750 test/300 primo cycle and it just skyrocketed my RHR to an uncomfortable place. I usually have a RHR of 55-60 bpm with it hovering at around 70 when I take my ADHD meds. I stay on top of fasted cardio year round and can handle stims very well so this has never been an issue before. This time I started noticing my RHR was sitting at a consistent 100+ bpm starting around week 3 onwards. I stopped it after week 4 and both my RHR and the mild tightness in my chest have disappeared.

It’s a pity too, I love how it makes my joints feel and that round/full look on it even on just 100 mgs is unreal.

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S Svnd Sep 22, 2024 #8

what is the minimum dose for joint relief @Type-IIx pls?

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Avatar of OldGHGuy OldGHGuy Sep 22, 2024 #9

From previous post of mine:
I used 50 mg Deca for 12 weeks (pinned 1x per week) on top of TRT for elbow tendonitis. Took several weeks to start helping (as expected) but worked like a charm. Note that I also lowered my poundages, did some physical therapy and massage as well as backed-off aggaravating lifts during this period too in order to heal. The condition never returned post-Deca for me (others have experienced otherwise).

Personally I wouldnt run Deca for any other reason - it really hits my BP due to water weight, even with managed E2

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Avatar of Obeast88 Obeast88 Sep 22, 2024 #10

Awesome read man!! Thanks for your contributions and as always learning something new from you everytime.

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j jtmarlin Sep 23, 2024 #11

In my experience, it's by far the best injectable for muscle growth. Much strong in me than testosterone seems to be. I have never been stronger than when I'm on nandrolone.

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Avatar of SwolieGuacamole SwolieGuacamole Sep 24, 2024 #12

I’ve been fine with 60-75mg weekly

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y yellium Oct 01, 2024 #13

hey after how many weeks exactly did it start working? I am asking cus I have the same problem, npp is in for about two weeks

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Avatar of OldGHGuy OldGHGuy Oct 01, 2024 #14

I used Deca (not NPP) and this took 5-6 weeks to start feeling results. Good luck

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y yellium Oct 01, 2024 #15

Thank you I have an another question please

Did deca end the pain like quickly ? or did it seem like recovery (each day better) and then it was gone? cus That's how I feel now in my shoulder

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Avatar of OldGHGuy OldGHGuy Oct 01, 2024 #16

Gradually over 3-4 weeks once it kicked in

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