Q: “I want to know how to do an oral-only cycle. I’ve been following your writing since the old misc.fitness.weights days and know that you really don’t care for oral only cycles, and have said more than once that if a person is afraid to use a needle then they’re not ready to use anabolic steroids. I really wouldn’t disagree with that, and I have no fear of using a needle. I’ve done many cycles of injected testosterone. My issue is that I will be traveling and staying in close quarters with other people and I will not have the privacy needed to keep vials and needles with me. How can I get excellent results despite using no injectables?”
A: That indeed is a very sound reason to omit injectables.
The downside of course is that using injectables allows a large percentage, or the entirety, of a cycle to be non-liver-toxic, whereas usually all of an orals-only cycle will be liver-toxic.
An exception can be where Primobolan oral (methenolone acetate) is used, but usually this is not practical for cost reasons. Although oral, it is not liver toxic due to its lack of a 17-methyl group.
However, as I don’t know your situation there, nonetheless I’ll start with oral Primobolan acetate as a possible option. If taken as a powder purchased directly from China, the cost can be within reason.
Where this is done, I recommend using 200-300 mg/day in divided doses, with for example 3-5 doses per day. While this may sound like a large amount – it would work to 1400-2100 mg/week – the effect, and therefore the amount reaching circulation, is comparable to only roughly 400-600 mg/week or perhaps a bit less.
The Primobolan alone will not be very effective, just as Primobolan injectable alone is not very effective, but in combination with Dianabol 25-50 mg/day results can be very good.
Where Primobolan oral is not available, then for an oral-only cycle I’d stack oxandrolone at 50-75 mg/day with Dianabol. This can give excellent results.
As these cycles include 17-alkylated steroids, or are composed entirely of them, I’d limit duration to 6 weeks.
An anti-aromatase may be needed to avoid estrogenic effects from aromatization of Dianabol, depending on individual sensitivity.
Winstrol oral can of course be used to good effect, but it may have worse effect on blood lipid profile and liver enzymes than anabolically-comparable amounts of Dianabol. However, if personally liking it, it certainly can be combined with any of the above oral-only stacks.
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Bill Roberts is an internationally-recognized expert on anabolic steroids and performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs). He received a bachelor degree in Microbiology and Cell Science and completed the educational and research requirements for a PhD in Medicinal Chemistry at a major American university.
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James moyer says
you are correct primo ace and anavar.
I did primo alone for my 1992 Mr.mo.contest I win overall teen mo.thanks to diet and primo holds on to precious muscle when calorie depleted. anavar is good as well gives strength increase. but if you do these with extra calories, you can grow.
Siril says
Do we need PCT after this kind of cycle ? If yes, clomid or nolvadex should be enough ?
Jon says
Should a beginner run a 4-6 week cycle taking 50mg Primobolan and 50 mg Dianabol concurrently?
Jon says
What would be the major physical difference between running Dianabol or Winstrol alongside Primobolan?
Adam Lea says
I would agree. Especially with the D-bol. Amazing stuff. Does anyone have a legitment non scam site that they trust? I have recently wanted to start back up but its been years and do not know where to go? Just looking for D-bol or Winni to start up.
Jon says
What is a good PCT to run after this? I’m running 50mg each of Primo and Winny
Sameer zee says
Hi…
I am planning to start new cycle of two steroids.
Methadienone and stanozolol.. 10mg 10mg combination… Because i want some quality muscle… Have bought molécula.. xx molé.. Which is combination of these two steroids with 10-10mg combination……. I am working out since 4 yrs…
Age 29
5’10
159lbs
Kindly suggest.. Will it be fine enuf?